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 Post subject: 725 Sporting - Trigger jams on 2nd shot
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:03 pm 
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Hello everyone, have an occasional problem where my trigger jams on the second shot. It takes quite a bit of force to get that second shot off... way too much force. This happened to me about 10 time today. Other times, it worked normally.

I tried switching barrels, but the intermittent problem still happened.

Any idea what could cause that? I had it cleaned a couple months ago by a professional. Maybe 1000- rounds since.

Any ideas, or should I take it to the shop?

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 Post subject: Re: 725 Sporting - Trigger jams on 2nd shot
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:12 pm 
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An additional thought... this is my first shotgun. I was talked into buying a "b-gun" instead of the far less expensive CZ that I originally planned to buy... because... all the b-gun fanatics were quite clear that the brownings and beretta would be shooting while the CZ would be broken all the time.

2nd problem I've had with this gun.

First the main spring a few months ago, now this. I'm sure there is a CZ owner out there, with an extra $2K still in his bank account, that is smiling at me.

Nothing to do with the problem... I was just recalling the passion at which people came at me when I asked my opinion on buying a well reviewed CZ shotgun that wasn't a a browning/beretta.

But... I am very happy with the gun, and I know that the real money is spent on shells and clay targets.

Please don't let this take away from any suggestions you may have on my problem.

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 Post subject: Re: 725 Sporting - Trigger jams on 2nd shot
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:40 pm 
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Pardon the question.....but are you absolutely certain you’re fully releasing the trigger between shots?


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 Post subject: Re: 725 Sporting - Trigger jams on 2nd shot
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:02 pm 
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I have fixed this problem with a number of Brownings, by offering to try shooting their gun. It doesn't't do it for me. Operator error. You must release the trigger before pulling it again. Have someone else shoot your gun, to see if they can duplicate the problem.

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 Post subject: Re: 725 Sporting - Trigger jams on 2nd shot
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:39 pm 
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Rooster booster wrote:
Pardon the question.....but are you absolutely certain you’re fully releasing the trigger between shots?

Uh... no... I'm not... now that you ask. It was 8 hours ago, I don't remember


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I have fixed this problem with a number of Brownings, by offering to try shooting their gun. It doesn't't do it for me. Operator error. You must release the trigger before pulling it again. Have someone else shoot your gun, to see if they can duplicate the problem.


Where are you when I need you?

I am certainly not beyond an "operator error". I hope its an operator error.

I honestly cannot recall if I had a death grip on the trigger. I've put a couple thousand rounds through it and hadn't make that mistake before. Each time, I dismounted, opened up the action, closed it back and the gun fired.

I have some snap caps, I will try to recreate the problem.

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 Post subject: Re: 725 Sporting - Trigger jams on 2nd shot
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:26 am 
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I had this problem with a Citori and a Fabarm N2 when I first started wearing shooting gloves.
It was 100% my fault, not releasing the trigger enough to reset.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:29 am 
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 Post subject: Re: 725 Sporting - Trigger jams on 2nd shot
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:53 am 
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md2020 wrote:
Hello everyone, have an occasional problem where my trigger jams on the second shot. It takes quite a bit of force to get that second shot off... way too much force. This happened to me about 10 time today. Other times, it worked normally.

I tried switching barrels, but the intermittent problem still happened.

Any idea what could cause that? I had it cleaned a couple months ago by a professional. Maybe 1000- rounds since.

Any ideas, or should I take it to the shop?

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Your description of the problem is a little confusing and I'm wondering if the description is accurate. As others have said, "trapping" the trigger, i.e. not fully releasing it after the first shot can result in the second barrel not firing when you pull the trigger.

HOWEVER, pulling the trigger harder after trapping it will NOT cause the second barrel to fire. You must release the trigger and then try pulling it again... at which time, a normal pull should work just fine.

So, the next time this happens, simply stop and release the trigger fully. Then pull the trigger. If the gun fires like this, then you were trapping the trigger. But, if it requires some sort of greatly increased pull weight to pull the trigger, then you have some obstruction or debris in the trigger mechanism.

BTW, snap caps are not likely to be any help in finding the problem unless it's to prove to yourself that trapping the trigger won't allow the second barrel to fire, but you could do that just as easily with empty chambers if your gun will reset the trigger without recoil.

Also, you need to learn to do some simple maintenance items such as removing the buttstock and cleaning the interior by flushing with a good solvent like kerosene or mineral spirits. Lubricate lightly after the solvent cleaning. Then reassemble. It shouldn't take any "professional" to do this simple maintenance.

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 Post subject: Re: 725 Sporting - Trigger jams on 2nd shot
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:20 pm 
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Check the adjustment on the trigger shoe. If it is in a certain position it can bind up. Make sure the small screw is in the indentation.


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 Post subject: Re: 725 Sporting - Trigger jams on 2nd shot
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:41 pm 
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Ulysses wrote:
md2020 wrote:
Hello everyone, have an occasional problem where my trigger jams on the second shot. It takes quite a bit of force to get that second shot off... way too much force. This happened to me about 10 time today. Other times, it worked normally.

I tried switching barrels, but the intermittent problem still happened.

Any idea what could cause that? I had it cleaned a couple months ago by a professional. Maybe 1000- rounds since.

Any ideas, or should I take it to the shop?

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Your description of the problem is a little confusing and I'm wondering if the description is accurate. As others have said, "trapping" the trigger, i.e. not fully releasing it after the first shot can result in the second barrel not firing when you pull the trigger.

HOWEVER, pulling the trigger harder after trapping it will NOT cause the second barrel to fire. You must release the trigger and then try pulling it again... at which time, a normal pull should work just fine.

So, the next time this happens, simply stop and release the trigger fully. Then pull the trigger. If the gun fires like this, then you were trapping the trigger. But, if it requires some sort of greatly increased pull weight to pull the trigger, then you have some obstruction or debris in the trigger mechanism.

BTW, snap caps are not likely to be any help in finding the problem unless it's to prove to yourself that trapping the trigger won't allow the second barrel to fire, but you could do that just as easily with empty chambers if your gun will reset the trigger without recoil.

Also, you need to learn to do some simple maintenance items such as removing the buttstock and cleaning the interior by flushing with a good solvent like kerosene or mineral spirits. Lubricate lightly after the solvent cleaning. Then reassemble. It shouldn't take any "professional" to do this simple maintenance.


Agree on all your points and suggestions. Especially about doing simple maintenance myself. I am mechanically inclined... I work on everything else in the garage and have or am willing to buy all kinds of tools... just haven't worked on firearms before. I'll just have to open it up and take a look.

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 Post subject: Re: 725 Sporting - Trigger jams on 2nd shot
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:52 pm 
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Before ducking around internally, I’d recommend you eliminate the variables previously discussed.


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 Post subject: Re: 725 Sporting - Trigger jams on 2nd shot
PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:00 pm 
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Sell and buy a CZ. You'll never be happy with the 725.

Or send in for service. Friend had trigger problems with a 725 20 gauge Sporter. He sent it in and they replaced the gun. Lucky devil. I was the previous owner.



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