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 Post subject: Re: Find your Browning manufacture date
PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:47 pm 
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Rudolph31 wrote:
Woodstock2 wrote:
But I thought I read that the post war guns didn't have the mag cut off. Maybe I misunderstood.


The magazine cutoff was on all but the first year (1903 and some 1904) Auto-5’s.


Thanks for the info.




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 Post subject: Re: Find your Browning manufacture date
PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:27 pm 
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Rudolph31 wrote:
Woodstock2 wrote:
But I thought I read that the post war guns didn't have the mag cut off. Maybe I misunderstood.


The magazine cutoff was on all but the first year (1903 and some 1904) Auto-5’s.



I have an A5 serial number 209xx which should be 1906 DOM. It does not have the mag cut off.


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 Post subject: Re: Find your Browning manufacture date
PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:27 pm 
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skeetsit wrote:
Rudolph31 wrote:
Woodstock2 wrote:
But I thought I read that the post war guns didn't have the mag cut off. Maybe I misunderstood.


The magazine cutoff was on all but the first year (1903 and some 1904) Auto-5’s.



I have an A5 serial number 209xx which should be 1906 DOM. It does not have the mag cut off.


You’re right, I should have said no first year guns, and some 1904-06 guns didn’t have cutoffs. It’s all laid out in Martin’s thread here:

https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewto ... 3&t=216472

But, as for postwar guns, they all should have cutoffs, and it doesn’t matter which war we’re talking about.


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 Post subject: Re: Find your Browning manufacture date
PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:28 pm 
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Ok let me join the list of having trouble ID the gun and year.
I just inherited a Browning semi auto loader 12 gauge , Light Twelve , made in Belgium, Browning Arms Company ST Louis Mo. & Montreal PO, numbers on bottom of receiver are 5G 25047 , any info appreciated
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 Post subject: Re: Find your Browning manufacture date
PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:47 am 
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1965

http://www.nramuseum.org/media/940941/s ... acture.pdf


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 Post subject: Re: Find your Browning manufacture date
PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:17 pm 
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Hello,
HOpefully someone can help me to date my A5?. It is a FN 16GA SN6360 , which should mean it is from 1910-13 but I am a bit confused with the 12GA serialization.

I'd appreciate your assistance.

Photos here:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ULKo7UaNcxey4qU8A

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 Post subject: Re: Find your Browning manufacture date
PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:41 pm 
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looks like 1910 to 1912 from the link Rudolph31 sent me, he showed me by the post how that site worked.

http://www.nramuseum.org/media/940941/s ... acture.pdf

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 Post subject: Re: Find your Browning manufacture date
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:31 am 
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rbdjr wrote:
looks like 1910 to 1912 from the link Rudolph31 sent me, he showed me by the post how that site worked.

http://www.nramuseum.org/media/940941/s ... acture.pdf


Cheers mate, I have now seen the "Serialization" document you refer to.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:03 pm 
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Howdy y’all! Same as all the others I’m trying to identify this Browning A5 12 gauge. I have looked at the websites posted above and feel confident it is a 1958 model made in Belgium. I think....

Serial number on receiver says 8G and then below it says 97xx6 (not sure why I protected the number lol.

Pulled the barrel off and the number on the barrel says C58733...why don’t they match? Is that telling of where and when it was made?

Any help is appreciated. Thanks y’all.


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 Post subject: Re: Find your Browning manufacture date
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:56 pm 
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8G should be 1958, because in 1968 they started using two digits. But at least a few 1968 guns got out with the single 8. There are several ways to confirm, but the easiest is if you have a square knob butt stock, it’s post 67.

Also, the number on your barrel is not a serial number.


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 Post subject: Re: Find your Browning manufacture date
PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:35 pm 
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Just wanted to get the experts around here to verify that I'm reading things right.

My dad has a 16 gauge A5 that came from his father. The serial number on it is R6968. He was under the impression that it was a Sweet 16 model but from what I've read, the R denotes that it's the standard model and not the Sweet 16. That serial number seems to correspond to being manufactured in 1954.

The barrel is marked with '* Special Steel' which I think means it's a full choke? It also says 'Browning Arms Company St. Louis Mo' which I believe means, it was made in Belgium.

Does all that sound about right? Thanks for the help, this place is an awesome wealth of knowledge.


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 Post subject: Re: Find your Browning manufacture date
PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:56 pm 
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You’re right about the R, your dad’s gun is a standard weight 16. And I get 1954 also.

Made in Belgium appears on the right side of the barrel. The St. Louis barrel address also appeared on American Brownings, made by Remington.

Special Steel or Acier Special appears on all of the guns. It’s just to give you confidence that the gun won’t blow up in your face. The choke is marked by a series of asterisks on the left side of the barrel. The fewer, the tighter.


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 Post subject: Re: Find your Browning manufacture date
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:06 pm 
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I was given a beautiful A5 serial # 4943# (5 digits), it is pristine. It says “Browning Arms Company, St Louis, MO on the top of the barrel and made in Belgium on the side. I think I might be reading the table wrong. I’m coming up with 1927?

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 Post subject: Re: Find your Browning manufacture date
PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:53 am 
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This sticky should have been deleted years ago. It links to the Browning website, which is full of errors and omissions. Just one example, all of the data, even when correct, just pertains to the 12 gauge. It’d be nice if they told you that.

As far as your gun goes, all I can tell you is that it’s not from 1927. The St. Louis distribution center didn’t exist until 1929.

What gauge is your Auto-5? The 12’s and 16’s debuted six years apart and the serial numbers reflect that.

Are there any letters along with the serial number? Letter prefixes started in 1946 for American imported 16’s, and a few years later on the 12’s. Prefixed guns had their own serial number ranges. In 1958 they prefixed the prefix with a number for the year.

I’ll say again DON’T USE THE BROWNING WEBSITE.. Use Goad’s 16 gauge date guide for a 16 or this site for everything:

http://www.nramuseum.org/media/940941/s ... acture.pdf


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 Post subject: Re: Find your Browning manufacture date
PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:23 am 
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Rudolph31 wrote:
This sticky should have been deleted years ago. It links to the Browning website, which is full of errors and omissions. Just one example, all of the data, even when correct, just pertains to the 12 gauge. It’d be nice if they told you that.

As far as your gun goes, all I can tell you is that it’s not from 1927. The St. Louis distribution center didn’t exist until 1929.

What gauge is your Auto-5? The 12’s and 16’s debuted six years apart and the serial numbers reflect that.

Are there any letters along with the serial number? Letter prefixes started in 1946 for American imported 16’s, and a few years later on the 12’s. Prefixed guns had their own serial number ranges. In 1958 they prefixed the prefix with a number for the year.

I’ll say again DON’T USE THE BROWNING WEBSITE.. Use Goad’s 16 gauge date guide for a 16 or this site for everything:

http://www.nramuseum.org/media/940941/s ... acture.pdf


Even that's not complete. I have a 7 chracter serial on my Auto-5 in 12ga. No letters at all. (Both are completely legible on the recoil band and feed lip.) Nothing makes sense. I wish there was a "IDing your A5" that doesn't just say "look up the serial."


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 Post subject: Re: Find your Browning manufacture date
PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:21 pm 
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Seven digits? Most likely the first two are smaller and indicate the year of manufacture. A few years after Browning imports went on a different numbering system, FN changed the way World Market guns were numbered. I wouldn’t be surprised if your gun was purchased overseas, probably in a PX.


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 Post subject: Re: Find your Browning manufacture date
PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:45 pm 
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Rudolph31 wrote:
This sticky should have been deleted years ago. It links to the Browning website, which is full of errors and omissions. Just one example, all of the data, even when correct, just pertains to the 12 gauge. It’d be nice if they told you that.

As far as your gun goes, all I can tell you is that it’s not from 1927. The St. Louis distribution center didn’t exist until 1929.

What gauge is your Auto-5? The 12’s and 16’s debuted six years apart and the serial numbers reflect that.

Are there any letters along with the serial number? Letter prefixes started in 1946 for American imported 16’s, and a few years later on the 12’s. Prefixed guns had their own serial number ranges. In 1958 they prefixed the prefix with a number for the year.

I’ll say again DON’T USE THE BROWNING WEBSITE.. Use Goad’s 16 gauge date guide for a 16 or this site for everything:

http://www.nramuseum.org/media/940941/s ... acture.pdf



It’s a 12 gauge and has a 5 digit serial number with no letters. Perhaps it’s not the original barrel?

There is an H above the serial number https://imgur.com/gallery/kWzXI7r

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 Post subject: Re: Find your Browning manufacture date
PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:06 pm 
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OK, so you’re reading the serial number off the barrel? You should know that back when the barrels had the serial numbers, it was on the barrel ring. In late 1953 they stopped serializing the barrels, but they applied another number that’s often confused with a serial number. These digits were on the side of the chamber.

What is the serial number on the receiver? It appears on the bottom, just in front of the loading port.

And pictures would help.


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 Post subject: Re: Find your Browning manufacture date
PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:05 pm 
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Rudolph31 wrote:
OK, so you’re reading the serial number off the barrel? You should know that back when the barrels had the serial numbers, it was on the barrel ring. In late 1953 they stopped serializing the barrels, but they applied another number that’s often confused with a serial number. These digits were on the side of the chamber.

What is the serial number on the receiver? It appears on the bottom, just in front of the loading port.

And pictures would help.


Serial number is off the receiver, I was referencing the “St Louis” off the barrel.

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There is an H above the serial number

https://imgur.com/gallery/kWzXI7r



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