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Dbl Auto
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Post subject: Remington 3200 - Update Information with Pics! Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:52 pm |
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I have seen several posts on SW concerning the Remington 3200. I love this model and it is a great shotgun. If you are looking to buy one there are a few things to watch out for. The Remington 3200 came out in 1973-74. The first guns produced had two pins on the rear of the receiver.
These guns had to be sent back to Remington for an update after Remington made a recall. The recall improved the consistency of trigger pull, improved the wood to receiver fit, and improved the strength of the top tang and bottom tang by adding metal between them. Guns that were made after 1976 or so (serial #'s above 30,000) only had one pin at the rear of the receiver.
These guns were produced from the factory with the updates and thus didn't need to be sent back. Some will look at the serial # on the bottom of the receiver to check for the updates. Remington put a dot between the "OU" and the serial number after the gun was updated. I have heard of people taking a punch and adding the dot to a gun that has not been updated. The only way to tell if the updates have been done to a 3200 is to look at the bottom of the breechface with the barrels removed. If you see two hex head screws, the updates have been done as seen in this picture.
If the gun you are looking at does not have these updates, it will cost you about $700.00 to have them done by Laib's Gunsmithing.
Another thing to watch for in the 3200's also can be seen in the above picture. If you look at the top hole in the breechface you can see that the firing pin is stuck in the out position. This pin should retract with the top lever thrown to the right. You can see the bottom hole does not have the pin stuck in the hole. This gun has had almost all of its use through the top barrel. You can see in the above picture that there is significant wear in the top area and none in the bottom area of the breechface. These guns tend to misfire because the holes wear shut over the life of the gun. Again, Laib's can fix this problem for you, but you will spend more $$.
I hope this information will help anyone looking for a 3200. I was at the Ohio Gun Collector's Association gun show this weekend and saw three 3200's for sale. Two of the three looked brand new but did not have the updates! Both were priced @ around $1,400.00. That is what they would be worth in updated condition. They would need $700.00 of repairs to be ready to go.
If anybody has any 3200 info I would love to hear from you.
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LUGNUTZ426
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Post subject: re: Remington 3200 - Update Information with Pics! Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:22 pm |
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GREAT POST. WILL SAVE SOME FOLKS A FEW BUCKS!
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Post subject: re: Remington 3200 - Update Information with Pics! Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 9:59 pm |
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Great post
Thanks for sharing.
Any pictures of the forend update?
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Post subject: re: Remington 3200 - Update Information with Pics! Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:37 pm |
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AWESOME post.....I am looking at picking one up and this is exactly what I needed.
Thanks!
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Post subject: Re: Remington 3200 - Update Information with Pics! Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:45 pm |
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I have been shooting updated 3200's for 20 years and have never had a a mis-fire or problem of any sort, thats with thousand of rounds @sporting clays each year. Went looking for a new clay gun this year, Beretta 686's, Browning 525's, Remington Premiers-my budget 2k max-I settled for a NIB 3200 30"bb w/ updates for $1400, had it ported,hi-vis sight {which are great} and chokes opened @ Ballistic Specialties for $400 and I have the perfect poor man's Perazzi! I'll add a note that 3200 barrel walls are generally considered to be to thin to add removable chokes too. Briley thin walls are the only ones available that might work and have the tooling to properly index in cutting heads to the centerline of the bore. I saw a Competition Model this weekend that you could see the threading visible on the outside of th barrel. Larry
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Post subject: Re: Remington 3200 - Update Information with Pics! Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:54 pm |
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Another update worth describing. The forearm metal has a tendency to bend over time giving a gap between the wood and metal at the front of the receiver. Laib's installs a strengthening piece of metal in the forearm metal to fix that. I believe they braze it in.
Another problem that shows up in time is the firing pin holes getting beat up and thus making the firing pins hang up there. Laib's fixes that one by installing a new harder bolt face area.
Laibs really is good, and they make parts that Remington quit making, like the hammer plunger guides, which is the most common breakage on a 3200. These might break in about 60,000 rounds. They take only minutes to replace. Remington ran low on these and required guns be sent in to fix them, but this was only to prevent hoarding the part. Laibs has apparently made lots of them, and you can buy spares from them.
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Dbl Auto
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Post subject: Re: Remington 3200 - Update Information with Pics! Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:48 pm |
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Joined: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:42 am Posts: 1972 Location: Ohio
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My Dad just found his receipt for the pictured 3200. 10-1-1974 $540.00 + tax. Doug
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Post subject: Re: Remington 3200 - Update Information with Pics! Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:00 am |
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Is this model still in production?
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Dbl Auto
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Post subject: Re: Remington 3200 - Update Information with Pics! Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:31 am |
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1973 to 1984 with some custom guns after that. Doug
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Post subject: Re: Remington 3200 - Update Information with Pics! Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:41 pm |
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what would a Remington 3200 trap about 85% be worth with no updates anyone know ?
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Post subject: Re: Remington 3200 - Update Information with Pics! Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:55 pm |
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dog99 wrote: what would a Remington 3200 trap about 85% be worth with no updates anyone know ? With no updates? Maybe $400-$500... or less depending on your defintion of 85%...
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dog99
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Post subject: Re: Remington 3200 - Update Information with Pics! Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 4:46 pm |
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Remington 3200 Premier trap #RP1742** marked premier on receiver sides anyone know what year made any info thanks
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bobski
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Post subject: Re: Remington 3200 - Update Information with Pics! Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:09 am |
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premiers were only made in 1975.
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Post subject: Re: Remington 3200 - Update Information with Pics! Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 3:28 pm |
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As I understand it the Remington Model 3200 Premier was intended for the European market, but many likely found their way back to North America with U.S. servicemen. The Model 3200 Premier doesn't appear in any of the domestic Remington Arms Co., Inc. catalogues in my collection.
Remington Model 3200 -- The Model 3200 was introduced in a special fold-out center spread in the 1973 Remington catalogue, in Field ($450), Skeet ($470), Trap ($490), Special Trap ($540), and One of 1000 Trap ($1050).
The 1974 Remington catalogue had the one of 1000 Skeet offered in either 26” or 28” barrels offered at $1050. Prices were up across the board – Field $485, Skeet $530, Trap $550, Special Trap $600. April 1, 1974, prices up again -- Field $530, Skeet $560, Trap $595, Special Trap $645, one of 1000 Skeet $1150. On July 1, 1974, prices were up again -- Field $555, Skeet $590, Trap $625, Special Trap $680, one of 1000 Skeet $1150.
The 1975 Remington catalogue introduces the 3" Magnum, order nos. 3241 (30" full/full) and 3243 (30" mod./full) as being available June 1, 1975. List price was $620, a $25 premium over the $595 Field Grade.
In the 1976 Remington catalogue the Special Trap is gone and the Competition Trap ($865) and Competition Skeet ($835) are introduced. Also the choice of RK-W or Satin finish is beginning to appear. The Field Grade had increased $100 to $695, the 3" Magnum to $720, and the Skeet to $735.
In the 1977 Remington catalogue 32-inch barrels appear for the various Trap versions and prices are up again. Field $750, 3" Magnum $775, Skeet $795, Trap $795, Competition Skeet $950, Competition Trap $950, and the Special Trap is back, now at $850.
By the 1978 Remington catalogue there are only four basic offerings for the Model 3200 -- Skeet, Special Trap, Competition Trap and Competition Skeet. I don't have any price lists from 1978 on.
For the 1979 Remington catalogue the only change is the addition of the (New) 28" Imp. Mod./Full (Live Bird Gun) in the competition Skeet Satin Finish column.
New for the 1980 Remington catalogue we have the addition of the Skeet set, 20- and 28-gauge and .410-bore skeet barrels and a luggage case (order No. 3299) to a 28-inch Competition Skeet Gun (order No. 3237). Also, the number of barrel length and choke combinations on the various Trap guns is reduced.
No changes in the 1981 Remington catalogue.
In the 1982 Remington catalogue the Skeet and the Special Trap are gone, as are 26-inch Competition Skeet guns. The Competition Trap choices are down to 32" Imp. Mod./Full, 30" Imp. Mod./Full and 30-inch Full/Full, all three either with regular or Monte Carlo stock.
In the 1983 Remington catalogue the Model 3200 isn't even pictured but down in the bottom right corner of page 15 the same six variants of the Competition Trap, the one 28-inch Competition Skeet, the Skeet set, and now in the Competition Skeet column order no. 3207 is listed as 28" Imp. Mod./Full (Pigeon Gun).
The Model 3200 is gone entirely from the 1984 Remington catalogue. Though as stated above a few continued to trickle out of the Custom Shop for years.
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Post subject: Re: Remington 3200 - Update Information with Pics! Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 3:49 pm |
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anyone want a 1 of 100 2 bbl, kolar tube skeet trap/combo set, cased? or a 1of 8...just ask.
btw...remchokes will go in a 3200 bbl no problem.
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Post subject: Re: Remington 3200 - Update Information with Pics! Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:25 pm |
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When did this go sticky??? Doug
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Post subject: Re: Remington 3200 - Update Information with Pics! Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:48 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Remington 3200 - Update Information with Pics! Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:02 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Remington 3200 - Update Information with Pics! Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:27 pm |
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bobski wrote: for those desiring to keep their old work horses alive, here is the best gunsmith in the nation to work on them. http://www.laibsgunsmithing.net/ I agree. Pat's not only the best, he's pretty much the *ONLY* person who will work on a 3200, and he owns all of the spare parts... He's the one Remington will refer you to-- they won't even service the gun anymore.
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Post subject: Re: Remington 3200 - Update Information with Pics! Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:42 am |
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Dbl Auto wrote: 1973 to 1984 with some custom guns after that. Doug Saw several new 3200 Competition Traps at the PA State Shoot in the 1990s that the Remington rep, Amerigo Pagliaroli, had displayed for sale....Price was $1,800, IIRC....
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