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 Post subject: 1100 28 gauge barrel issue
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:52 pm 
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I picked up a 1100 in 28 gauge a few months ago that had a Simmons vent rib fixed choke skeet barrel. I wanted to send that barrel out and have choke tubes installed but found out I could buy a new Remington barrel for less money or so I thought. I received the new barrel yesterday and as soon as I unpacked it I knew it wasn't right. The part that goes in the receiver is half the length of the barrel I have and and the gas port ring inside diameter is to small to go over the magazine tube. The tag on the box states that it is for a 28 gauge 1100 and the part # is 242141. The receiver on this gun is marked Model 1100 with no other markings. So I guess my question is what do I have and is there a replacement barrel available? Thanks in advance for any help with this problem.




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 Post subject: Re: 1100 28 gauge barrel issue
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:08 pm 
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Sounds like you have a Simmons 28 gauge conversion gun, made before Remington started making 28 gauge 1100s, so no factory barrels will fit. Does the serial number end in V, X, or N ?

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 Post subject: Re: 1100 28 gauge barrel issue
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Sounds like you have a Simmons 28 gauge conversion gun, made before Remington started making 28 gauge 1100s, so no factory barrels will fit. Does the serial number end in V, X, or N ?

Yes sir the serial number ends in X So I'm pretty much stuck with what I've got? What did they base these guns on gauge wise and could it be converted to another gauge. I'm into this one for $400.Any chance of getting my money back and moving on to something else. Thanks for the info


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 Post subject: Re: 1100 28 gauge barrel issue
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:04 pm 
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They made them mostly from 20 gauge guns, but ones based on the 12 gauge sized receiver, so you aren't going to find any cheap barrels in 20 either. Depending on condition, you got a pretty good deal. Those old heavy 28s are still popular on the skeet ranges. Almost zero recoil. You could have choke tubes added cheaper than a new barrel. Follow the link:

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 Post subject: Re: 1100 28 gauge barrel issue
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:53 pm 
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From a mid-1960s Simmons catalog --

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 Post subject: Re: 1100 28 gauge barrel issue
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I think it would be easy to sell it for $400.
Did you shoot it?
Does it work?


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 Post subject: Re: 1100 28 gauge barrel issue
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:26 pm 
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Gentlemen.
Thanks for the replies and the information. At least now I know what I have. The gun is in excellent condition with perfect bluing and only a few light marks in the wood. I have shot it but it needs the extractor replaced and I ordered one for the new 28 without knowing what I had so I guess I need one for either a 12 or a 20. I may just hold on to it awhile and shoot it a little and look for anouther 28 to shoot. I wouldn't think that Simmons converted a whole lot of them over the years so I doubt I will ever run across anouther one


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 Post subject: Re: 1100 28 gauge barrel issue
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In that condition you stole it. I don't know how many they made, but it wasn't too many and they quit in 1969.

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 Post subject: Re: 1100 28 gauge barrel issue
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:16 pm 
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I wonder where Simmons got the barrels. Did they make their own?

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 Post subject: Re: 1100 28 gauge barrel issue
PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:54 am 
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On the early 12 ga. frame 20 bore guns, Simmons sleeved the 20ga. barrels to 28 ga. or 410 bore and altered the magazine and bolt to feed and fire the smaller shells. If you look at Researchers posting of the Simmons catalog, you'll see that they offered both the NEW 870's and 1100 small bores and would still do a conversion of the older large frame 20 ga guns. Once Remington made the small bore guns, the demand for conversions dried up and Simmons quit making them. Claude Purbaugh also converted many of the large frame 20 ga. Remington Guns and was first to do so. He also is credited with making the earliest tube sets for sub gauge shooting. Browning offered their own brand of tube sets early on also.


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 Post subject: Re: 1100 28 gauge barrel issue
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:37 am 
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The advertisement says "No tubes, no sleeves, no chamber only. Full length 26 inch steel barrels." I wonder if they adapted barrels from the 11-48.

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 Post subject: Re: 1100 28 gauge barrel issue
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:49 pm 
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Dan--they are referring to the newly introduced 28 and 410 guns when they say NO TUBES, etc. .The conversions are a totally different item.


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 Post subject: Re: 1100 28 gauge barrel issue
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:19 pm 
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Simmons also made or had made complete barrels for these and then installed the Simmons ribs. Most of them were very well done.

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 Post subject: Re: 1100 28 gauge barrel issue
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floridaford wrote:
I'm into this one for $400.Any chance of getting my money back and moving on to something else.

do you still have the barrel and want to part with it?


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 Post subject: Re: 1100 28 gauge barrel issue
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andya16 wrote:
floridaford wrote:
I'm into this one for $400.Any chance of getting my money back and moving on to something else.

do you still have the barrel and want to part with it?

No sir sent the barrel back after I found out it would not fit. Traded the 28 to a friend of mine for a 1911 in 38 Super. His 12 year old daughter loves it and has gotten pretty good at busting clays with it


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 Post subject: Re: 1100 28 gauge barrel issue
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floridaford wrote:
andya16 wrote:
floridaford wrote:
I'm into this one for $400.Any chance of getting my money back and moving on to something else.

do you still have the barrel and want to part with it?

No sir sent the barrel back after I found out it would not fit. Traded the 28 to a friend of mine for a 1911 in 38 Super. His 12 year old daughter loves it and has gotten pretty good at busting clays with it

thanks for letting me know—i’m still on the search for this unicorn!


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 Post subject: Re: 1100 28 gauge barrel issue
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floridaford wrote:
andya16 wrote:
floridaford wrote:
I'm into this one for $400.Any chance of getting my money back and moving on to something else.

do you still have the barrel and want to part with it?

No sir sent the barrel back after I found out it would not fit. Traded the 28 to a friend of mine for a 1911 in 38 Super. His 12 year old daughter loves it and has gotten pretty good at busting clays with it

thanks for letting me know—i’m still on the search for this unicorn!




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