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 Post subject: V3 Competition Tactical
PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:05 pm 
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Remington continues to fill out the V3 line, pretty cool shotgun.
https://www.remington.com/shotguns/tactical/v3-competition-tactical




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 Post subject: Re: V3 Competition Tactical
PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:58 pm 
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Now this gun tickles my fancy!

8+1 would be more than adequate for Home Defense, just add a light. Change out the magazine extension for one that gives 10+1 and nix the light, and you have an entry level competition gun.

If I only had the money... Well, I can dream can't I.

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 Post subject: Re: V3 Competition Tactical
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:41 am 
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This would be great for 3 gun, but a 22" barrel may be a bit long for my home defense needs. If they made a V3 Tactical from the factory with an 18.5" barrel and 7+1 , I'd jump on it. On the Remington website, they list an 18.5" vent rib bead sight barrel for sale as separate part, but the $300 price tag may dissuade some people that don't get own a V3 and would have to pay X amount for the gun and Y amount for a a separate barrel.


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 Post subject: Re: V3 Competition Tactical
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:47 am 
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If they made a V3 Tactical from the factory with an 18.5" barrel and 7+1 , I'd jump on it.


https://www.remington.com/shotguns/tactical/v3-tactical

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 Post subject: Re: V3 Competition Tactical
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:42 pm 
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RandyWakeman wrote:
apd9216 wrote:
If they made a V3 Tactical from the factory with an 18.5" barrel and 7+1 , I'd jump on it.


https://www.remington.com/shotguns/tactical/v3-tactical

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Thanks, Randy! This may just keep me from buying the 1301 Tactical...


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 Post subject: Re: V3 Competition Tactical
PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:32 pm 
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Does anyone know if the following will work to get both a competition gun and a HD gun in one?

1. Buy the 22" V3 Competition.

2. Turn into a the 18.5" Tactical gun by purchasing:

a) The 18.5" barrel for $257 here: https://grabagun.com/rem-v3-xbl-12-18-5-cyl-bs.html

b) The 3-round magazine extension tube for $89 here: https://www.remington.com/shop/V3-12-GA ... SH/p/17697

Is there some reason this won't work?

My local dealer claims Remington won't sell the 26 and 28" barrels separately so you can't also turn it into a clay / bird gun. That's really disappointing and annoying. I've emailed Remington to confirm whether it's true.


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 Post subject: Re: V3 Competition Tactical
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:20 am 
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matto6 wrote:
Does anyone know if the following will work to get both a competition gun and a HD gun in one?

1. Buy the 22" V3 Competition.



I'd stop right there. 22 inch (actually, 21-1/2 in.) is in no way a long barrel, and you have better capacity (Extended Capacities 6+1 on tactical models. 8+1 on Competition models).

A shorter barrel gets you loud and muzzle flash, neither of which anyone wants for HD.

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 Post subject: Re: V3 Competition Tactical
PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:09 am 
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RandyWakeman wrote:
22 inch (actually, 21-1/2 in.)

Interesting, it's 21.5? Remington specs claim the overall length of the guns are exactly 3.5" different in length (43 vs 39.5) which would align with the barrels being exactly 18.5 and 22". Remington also lists the Competition as only 0.025 lbs heavier than the Tactical, which seems impossible. Maybe all their numbers are just rounded to the nearest whatever-they-feel-like-it? :-/ Or are the receivers different?

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A shorter barrel gets you loud and muzzle flash, neither of which anyone wants for HD.

A very good point, that few people ever talk about in HD.

That said, I'm still curious..... I assume this gun could take the 18.5" barrel if desired?


Also..... Who has one of these 22's? How's the weight balance? I haven't found a single report of one yet.


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 Post subject: Re: V3 Competition Tactical
PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:36 am 
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If you want to buy more loose parts, I won't try to stop you.



The 940 JM Pro has a 24 inch barrel, with an extended choke it is 25 inch. By no means is a 21-1/2 inch barrel any problem for HD-- if it is, well . . . get a pistol.

The mix and match theory doesn't work for me. If you do really need an HD shotgun, just when is it you don't want you're home defended? It sure isn't ready to go with the wrong barrel on it, fussing with barrel clamps, sights, and so it goes.

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Having a Remchoke barrel, the beveled loading port, the better capacity, oversized charging handle, bolt release, and safety button are all advantages. I like the Cerakote receiver as well. As far as weight balance, the biggest difference (by far) is how many shells you decide to load into them.

The weight of nine shells, all in front of the receiver, is not trivial.

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 Post subject: Re: V3 Competition Tactical
PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:46 pm 
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RandyWakeman wrote:
Having a Remchoke barrel, the beveled loading port, the better capacity, oversized charging handle, bolt release, and safety button are all advantages.

Well, it turns out the V3 Competition is illegal for me because I live in NY state. I'm limited to a capacity of 7 or less on semi-automatic shotguns.

The gun I would like to buy / piece together is:

1. The receiver from the V3 Tactical
2. The stock from the V3 compact (13" but adjustable out to 14)
3. The 22" barrell from the V3 competition or V3 Compact.

Randy, do you happen to know if purchasing that is possible? I called Remington and they said it is not. He claimed the only V3 barrel they sell is the 26".

So I'm left with:
a. Buy the V3 compact, and forget the Tactical add-ons (oversized stuff, and opened loading port), or
b. Buy the Tactical, figure out a shorter stock (I hope Remmington would sell me the stock from the compact???) and give up on a 22" barrel and chokes.


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 Post subject: Re: V3 Competition Tactical
PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:17 pm 
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matto6 wrote:
b. Buy the Tactical, figure out a shorter stock (I hope Remmington would sell me the stock from the compact???) and give up on a 22" barrel and chokes.


I can confirm Remington does sell the compact stock as I’ve bought one. I do believe you must order the LOP shim kit (comes with screws) separately, but I forget the part number. Don’t forget to include a Supercell recoil pad if needed.


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 Post subject: Re: V3 Competition Tactical
PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:39 am 
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matto6 wrote:
Well, it turns out the V3 Competition is illegal for me because I live in NY state. I'm limited to a capacity of 7 or less on semi-automatic shotguns.


That isn't correct.

https://safeact.ny.gov/

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The SAFE Act was recently amended. The amendments include the following changes to the law:

Suspending the requirement that only magazines that can contain 7 rounds or less can be purchased. Going forward, magazines can be purchased that can contain up to 10 rounds. Magazines may only contain up to 7 rounds regardless of their capacity, unless you are at an incorporated firing range or competition, in which case you may load your magazine to its full capacity.

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 Post subject: Re: V3 Competition Tactical
PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:13 am 
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matto6 wrote:
My local dealer claims Remington won't sell the 26 and 28" barrels separately so you can't also turn it into a clay / bird gun. That's really disappointing and annoying. I've emailed Remington to confirm whether it's true.


matto6 wrote:
He claimed the only V3 barrel they sell is the 26".


How many times is the story going to change? :lol: :lol: :lol:

The 18-1/2 inch V3 barrel has been offered for sale on the Remington website for a good long while: https://www.remington.com/shop/%21NEW%2 ... ht/p/80616

Remington apparently already told you they sell 26 inch loose V3 barrels. Eventually, you will see all barrel lengths on their website. All you have to do is convince people not to buy TAC-13's, which is currently tying up Remington's production capacity.

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 Post subject: Re: V3 Competition Tactical
PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:00 am 
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RandyWakeman wrote:
Suspending the requirement that only magazines that can contain 7 rounds or less can be purchased. Going forward, magazines can be purchased that can contain up to 10 rounds. Magazines may only contain up to 7 rounds regardless of their capacity


Hmmm. Are you sure that applies to shotguns?

1. My local gun shop insists this doesn't apply to shotguns and they absolutely cannot sell me a semi-auto with an 8 round capacity

2. The same safeact site you linked explicitly says semi-auto shotguns with magazine capacity in excess of seven round are banned, and lists the Remington 1100 tactical (8+1) as an example of an "assault weapon". (under "I'm not sure if my gun is an assault weapon. How do I find out?")

Bud's NY policy contradicts it saying you can have up to 10 rounds in a semi shotgun.

It's possible the first 2 are wrong, but this lack of clarity is troubling. For now I'm going with the documents provided on https://safeact.ny.gov/ until I find a definitive source.


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 Post subject: Re: V3 Competition Tactical
PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:14 am 
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Call them! SAFE Act Questions? Call 1-855-LAW-GUNS They practically beg you to call them with questions.

Yes, Bud's NY policy is here: https://www.budsgunshop.com/feeds/state ... ctions.pdf It is dated 10/04/2019 - DHR.

Illinois gun laws change often. It isn't quite the mess of NY, but they are trying.

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 Post subject: Re: V3 Competition Tactical
PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:30 pm 
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RandyWakeman wrote:
Call them! SAFE Act Questions? Call 1-855-LAW-GUNS

Just called. The site https://safeact.ny.gov/ is completely out of date and wrong in many places but they are having trouble getting it updated due to government bureaucracy. :lol:

1. 10 round magazines are legal and you can load them to 10 anywhere, any time (not just shooting ranges)
2. SA shotguns count, so 10+1 is legal.

The problem is that this isn't written down anywhere. The old law is still on the books but there's a recent court case that overturns it. And even that court case says it applies only to that county, but there's some other rule that overturns that restriction, so it does indeed apply to the entire state.

And again, the government site trying to shed light on this is completely wrong.

Holy sh!t. But hey, at least bud's knows whats up.


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 Post subject: Re: V3 Competition Tactical
PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:06 pm 
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Bud's wrote it down. In fact, it was just updated today. 01/10/2020 - DHR https://www.budsgunshop.com/feeds/state ... ctions.pdf

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 Post subject: Re: V3 Competition Tactical
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:55 pm 
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matto6 wrote:
RandyWakeman wrote:
Call them! SAFE Act Questions? Call 1-855-LAW-GUNS

Just called. The site https://safeact.ny.gov/ is completely out of date and wrong in many places but they are having trouble getting it updated due to government bureaucracy. :lol:

1. 10 round magazines are legal and you can load them to 10 anywhere, any time (not just shooting ranges)
2. SA shotguns count, so 10+1 is legal.

The problem is that this isn't written down anywhere. The old law is still on the books but there's a recent court case that overturns it. And even that court case says it applies only to that county, but there's some other rule that overturns that restriction, so it does indeed apply to the entire state.

And again, the government site trying to shed light on this is completely wrong.

Holy sh!t. But hey, at least bud's knows whats up.


Alright... well I called again, got someone else, and he reversed the answer. More than 7 rounds in a semi-auto shotgun is considered an assault rifle in NY State.

This thread really isn't about this... but I wanted to correct the above misinformation. The Remington V3 Competition is illegal in NY State.


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 Post subject: Re: V3 Competition Tactical
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:01 pm 
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Alright... well I called again, got someone else, and he reversed the answer.


What happens when you call a third time and get a reverse of the reverse? :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: V3 Competition Tactical
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:16 pm 
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RandyWakeman wrote:
matto6 wrote:
Alright... well I called again, got someone else, and he reversed the answer.


What happens when you call a third time and get a reverse of the reverse? :shock:


I know, right? He actually took my number and called me back after he talked to the 3 other officers, including the one who originally told me they were legal. He said the correct answer is that more than 7 is illegal.

And at this point, it doesn't matter. If the local gun shops say it's illegal, the NY safe act site says it's illegal, and the officers who work the hotline agree (mostly?) that it's illegal... that's enough to scare me away.

The V3 Tactical with vent-rib barrel looks pretty nice. It's sold out everywhere, but I'm sure it'll stock back up eventually.




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