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 Post subject: Re: V3 vs 1100 sporting
PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 2:48 pm 
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I wish I was that much of a craftsman. Regrettably, I’ve never had the hands, eyes or patience for anything more refined than the crudest demolition work.




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 Post subject: Re: V3 vs 1100 sporting
PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 3:14 pm 
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S.davis wrote:
I wish I was that much of a craftsman. Regrettably, I’ve never had the hands, eyes or patience for anything more refined than the crudest demolition work.


Again, if you can get the plastic in the white thickness that you would need; I bet someone could produce your spacers. You could then put them on the V3 or any other gun that you want so adorned.


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 Post subject: Re: V3 vs 1100 sporting
PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 3:44 pm 
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I do not like the feel of aluminum receivers so it is no contest for me.


How many steel receiver autoloaders are in current production today in any significant quantities? :shock: You won't run out of fingers and toes counting them. Why do you think that is? Any new shotgun with a steel receiver is a non-starter.

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 Post subject: Re: V3 vs 1100 sporting
PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 8:10 pm 
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Virginian wrote:
I do not like the feel of aluminum receivers so it is no contest for me.


The Breda shotguns purportedly have steel receivers.

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 Post subject: Re: V3 vs 1100 sporting
PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 8:24 pm 
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The Breda shotguns purportedly have steel receivers.


Not true. The vast majority of "Breda" nameplated shotguns have alloy receivers. Only the insignificant quantity of Xanthos ($2999 MSRP) models made have a steel receiver and few want them. Wonder why?


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 Post subject: Re: V3 vs 1100 sporting
PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 9:01 pm 
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I didn’t say all Breda shotgun receivers were made from steel rather they are available from current production if you so desire. My 870’s, 1100‘S & Auto-5’s & SX1 are steel receivers. The Benelli(s), Beretta(s), Franchi(s), 1300(s), SX3, M37(s) & Versamax residing in the safe(s) are alloy.

I like all of them.

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 Post subject: Re: V3 vs 1100 sporting
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 5:46 pm 
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You misread the question: "How many steel receiver autoloaders are in current production today in any significant quantities?"

The answer is ONLY the 1100 / 11-87 series Remingtons.

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 Post subject: Re: V3 vs 1100 sporting
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 6:56 pm 
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I was responding to Virginian’s post as the OP made no reference to metallurgy composition of shotgun receivers.

“Significant quantities” can be a squishy term as without real production numbers, it’s anecdotal at best.

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 Post subject: Re: V3 vs 1100 sporting
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2020 6:19 pm 
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S.davis wrote:
The steel receiver is a big part of the reason an 1100 at least feels or seems more well crafted to me. I’m willing to accept that the V3 is better engineered. It certainly ought to be, since its been 50 years between the 2 designs, and for as ugly as a V3 is, it should be functional.

That said, there is no way Remington comes out with a steel receiver V3. I’m not a millwright, but it seems like it would require all new tooling? My guess is longer barrel, prettier wood (although I think they already have wood that would pass for premier on many other current production shotguns), polished finish, hopefully some silly refinements like a metal trigger guard, extended bolt handle (though I’m not really a fan of that), grip cap maybe.

As long as it’s not some goofy green receiver or porting or something really dumb, I suspect I’ll be happy, but I doubt I’ll get my beloved white line spacers.


Just put some additional weight into the stock of the V3, you can achieve even less perceived recoil.


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 Post subject: Re: V3 vs 1100 sporting
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 4:35 am 
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 Post subject: Re: V3 vs 1100 sporting
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Then again, if you want timeless good looks, the 1100 "American Classic" is going to win.

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 Post subject: Re: V3 vs 1100 sporting
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 6:58 am 
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Why do they show that 1100 with an extended choke ? They don’t come with one.

They are beautiful shotguns.


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 Post subject: Re: V3 vs 1100 sporting
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 7:47 am 
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 Post subject: Re: V3 vs 1100 sporting
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 10:22 am 
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McFarmer wrote:
Why do they show that 1100 with an extended choke ? They don’t come with one.

They are beautiful shotguns.


Yes, they sure do, on a couple of different models.


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 Post subject: Re: V3 vs 1100 sporting
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 11:46 am 
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McFarmer wrote:
Why do they show that 1100 with an extended choke ? They don’t come with one.

They are beautiful shotguns.


Yes, they sure do, on a couple of different models.


Not that model. The local shop I ordered mine from had that exact photo in their catalog and no joy when it came. He had no explanation. No big deal, just wondering why they used that photo when the American Classic doesn’t come that way.


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 Post subject: Re: V3 vs 1100 sporting
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 12:21 pm 
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Virginian wrote:
I do not like the feel of aluminum receivers so it is no contest for me.


How many steel receiver autoloaders are in current production today in any significant quantities? :shock: You won't run out of fingers and toes counting them.

So ? At one point I considered becoming a tenth doctor, too. (you know, 9 out of 10 doctors recommend ..................) I know what I like and make no apologies.

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 Post subject: Re: V3 vs 1100 sporting
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Virginian wrote:
I do not like the feel of aluminum receivers so it is no contest for me.


How many steel receiver autoloaders are in current production today in any significant quantities? :shock: You won't run out of fingers and toes counting them.

So ? At one point I considered becoming a tenth doctor, too. (you know, 9 out of 10 doctors recommend ..................) I know what I like and make no apologies.


The "so" is that if you prefer or just plain want a new autoloader with a steel receiver, it is going to be an 1100 or 11-87 in 12 gauge, 20 gauge, 28 gauge, or .410 bore. It isn't what about anyone prefers, it is about what is available and what is going to be available.

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 Post subject: Re: V3 vs 1100 sporting
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:33 pm 
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Actually, the original question was between the V3 and the 1100, not what else is or is not in production.

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 Post subject: Re: V3 vs 1100 sporting
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Actually, the original question was between the V3 and the 1100, not what else is or is not in production.


C'mon now-- the original question was answered long ago, and it wasn't about the 1100 that is already owned. It was only "if the V3 is worth looking at?" It is.

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 Post subject: Re: V3 vs 1100 sporting
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 9:23 pm 
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I read just fine, and the OP was looking at a new 1100 Sporting vs. a V3.



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