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 Post subject: Re: Remington Closures . . . . .
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 Post subject: Re: Remington Closures . . . . .
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Randy. Thank you for that update.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington Closures . . . . .
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Ruger bought Marlin. It has nothing to do with shotguns.
Roundhill bought the Remington guns.


Right, again my point being: Ruger doesnt (and never has) had a *quality* shotgun line, but they seem to excel in many other segments of firearms. Why did they not try to get the rights to the 870, 1100, and 1187...well established, quality shotguns...to finally make them a major playing in the shotgun market segment? Seems logical and a perfect opportunity to break into the shotgun world for good without having to re-invent the wheel.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington Closures . . . . .
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Where would anyone get the idea that Ruger is interested at all in making repeating shotguns?

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 Post subject: Re: Remington Closures . . . . .
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Maybe because it's a big segment of the firearms market and Ruger, being a firearms manufacturer, might like to make a profit from selling repeating shotguns?

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 Post subject: Re: Remington Closures . . . . .
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Right, again my point being: Ruger doesnt (and never has) had a *quality* shotgun line, but they seem to excel in many other segments of firearms. Why did they not try to get the rights to the 870, 1100, and 1187...well established, quality shotguns...to finally make them a major playing in the shotgun market segment?


1) They are not interested and since the formation of Sturm, Ruger, have had no discernible interest in pump or autoloading shotguns.

2) Moreover, Remington shotguns alone were not offered as a bid parcel.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington Closures . . . . .
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Maybe Ruger learned a lesson with their previous flops in the shotgun business, and steered clear of the rest of Remington firearms.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington Closures . . . . .
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Thank you all for one of the best sources of information on this issue.
Does anyone have any thoughts about where Ruger will manufacture the Marlin guns? New Hampshire, Arizona, Mayodan?

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 Post subject: Re: Remington Closures . . . . .
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Well I bought my V3 today I don't know about the lifetime warranty. But hopefully I will get my $50 rebate.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington Closures . . . . .
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Have any of you tried Remington.com in the last couple of days? I get a big security warning saying it is unsafe and may be used to steal your data. I got out in a hurry.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington Closures . . . . .
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Have any of you tried Remington.com in the last couple of days? I get a big security warning saying it is unsafe and may be used to steal your data. I got out in a hurry.

I would guess that is because of the sale. The actual ownership of the site has probably changed but the security certificate may not yet have been updated with new credentials. If they have been updated then they don't match what my browser is expecting. Whatever the case, I don't have any "secure information" associated with the web site so I don't care if the credentials don't match. I will assume that this will be sorted out in the coming days or weeks.

For the time being if I were to want to purchase parts from the website I would probably not, choosing rather to telephone and get the parts that way. To just go onto the website and look and see what might have changed I continue to not worry and would just click past the warning.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington Closures . . . . .
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I was just on the website and had no problem registering my gun and.getting the rebate form.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington Closures . . . . .
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Thank you all for one of the best sources of information on this issue.
Does anyone have any thoughts about where Ruger will manufacture the Marlin guns? New Hampshire, Arizona, Mayodan?

Dennis


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"No matter what, we will keep a footprint in Ilion. That's 100%. It's the legacy of the company, so I don't see Ilion ever going away, not as long as I have anything to do with the ownership," says Managing Partner Richmond Italia. "So, definitely, we will always keep a footprint there. Question is, how big will that footprint be?"

It will be much smaller, at least to start.

"We've agreed to bring back 200 hourly employees, as we discussed earlier. Anything more than that basically comes down to our negotiations with the state," says Italia.


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While the new owners are aware of Remington's iconic name and presence in Ilion, and are committed to preserving both, they say the Ilion plant is outdated and does not lend itself to safe, large-scale, efficient production.

"Unfortunately, the legacy building that we have in Ilion, based on four floors is just not ideal for manufactuirng in today's age," says Italia. "So, the ideal scenario is to basically find and move into maybe retrofit another building that somebody had left behind or build new."

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 Post subject: Re: Remington Closures . . . . .
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RandyWakeman wrote:
https://www.wktv.com/content/news/Exclusive-Remington-Arms-new-owners-discuss-future-of-Ilion-plant--workers-572731311.html

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"No matter what, we will keep a footprint in Ilion. That's 100%. It's the legacy of the company, so I don't see Ilion ever going away, not as long as I have anything to do with the ownership," says Managing Partner Richmond Italia. "So, definitely, we will always keep a footprint there. Question is, how big will that footprint be?"

It will be much smaller, at least to start.

"We've agreed to bring back 200 hourly employees, as we discussed earlier. Anything more than that basically comes down to our negotiations with the state," says Italia.


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While the new owners are aware of Remington's iconic name and presence in Ilion, and are committed to preserving both, they say the Ilion plant is outdated and does not lend itself to safe, large-scale, efficient production.

"Unfortunately, the legacy building that we have in Ilion, based on four floors is just not ideal for manufactuirng in today's age," says Italia. "So, the ideal scenario is to basically find and move into maybe retrofit another building that somebody had left behind or build new."


The last sentence in the bottom quote, " So, the ideal scenario is to basically find and move into....." is an interesting one, IMO. In NY ? Elsewhere maybe? Regardless, that all sounds like truly large scale production may be a ways off (?). If they`re taking their time to " do it right " , sounds good to me. So far, they sound dedicated to the success of the company.

Just read the full article. At least as expressed in that article, it would certainly appear that Roundhill is committed to working with the State of NY to do what they can to keep Remington Arms located there. It remains to be seen how committed the State of NY is to the same goal.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington Closures . . . . .
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The article answers that, but you have to actually read it. :shock:

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Italia says the Round Hill Group, which recently bought Remington Arms at auction, is committed not only to growing in New York State, but also to preserving the jobs of the people who work at the Ilion plant, who, he says, are the best at what they do.

"Am I open to other areas of New York? Only if they're within commuting distance of our employee base. Because the only reason we're considering New York is because of the employee base."

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 Post subject: Re: Remington Closures . . . . .
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Pgeurts wrote:
I was just on the website and had no problem registering my gun and.getting the rebate form.

I tried earlier on the iphone and ipad and it still said the same thing. But it’s working now. Might have been something on my end.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington Closures . . . . .
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:08 am 
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Sounds better for Ilion...

(WUTR-TV) — Richmond Italia is the new owner of the Remington Arms plant in Ilion.

“I’ve been a hunter my whole life,” said Italia. “I grew up with the name Remington, so it definitely hit a chord.”

Italia was alerted to the possibility of buying Remington 10 days before it was sold in bankruptcy court in Alabama. He said he wants the gun manufacturing to continue and be successful.

“Upper management for Remington — and I don’t want to use the word hunters — but they’re not going to be suit and ties,” said Italia. “They’re going to be guys that get their hands dirty, guys that are going to walk the floor and talk to the employees.”

According to Italia, the building is dated. He wants to renovate it and make it modern.

“You have this super modern facility with untrained staff [in Alabama] and then you go up to New York and you have the opposite, where you have incredible staff, in an antiquated facility,” said Italia. “So, I believe that probably was the single biggest mistake that the old management has done.”

Italia plans to bring back as many workers to manufacture guns as possible. About 600 plant employees are still on furlough, but it shouldn’t take much longer, according to Italia.
They still have to secure parts suppliers that also closed during the pandemic.

“We’re not talking, we’re not shutting down for six months,” said Italia. “We’re talking weeks to a maximum a couple of months. Maximum.”

The Marlin line of weapons, formerly made in the Ilion plant, was bought by Ruger. They will be moving out, but Italia said he should be able to bring back the same level of workforce.

“If we do close down Huntsville, and Sturgis, and Lenoir City, and concentrate them under one roofline, which will be Ilion, that will more than replace the employees that were lost on the Marlin line,” said Italia.




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