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 Post subject: Remington Auction
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:18 am 
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What are the chances that the Remington brand could be saved and their popular firearms continued to be manufactured by one of the few remaining firearm manufacturers in the U.S.?




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 Post subject: Re: Remington Auction
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:34 am 
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Your guess is as good as anyone’s here. There isn’t a swinging Richard here that knows, and would say so.

I hope the chances are high, but hope only goes so far.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington Auction
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:48 am 
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Rooster booster wrote:
Your guess is as good as anyone’s here. There isn’t a swinging Richard here that knows, and would say so.

I hope the chances are high, but hope only goes so far.


That pretty much sums it up at this point in time.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington Auction
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:14 am 
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What are the chances that the Remington brand could be saved and their popular firearms continued to be manufactured by one of the few remaining firearm manufacturers in the U.S.?


I think lower than most would like to admit.

The problem is that Remington offers VERY little that is truly unique or special anymore, and that another company can't do better for the same money, or the same for less money.

The 700 has been eclipsed in past 10 years quite handily. The 1100/1187 have been eclipsed in the past 20 years. Their handgun line isn't really anything to write home about. They've basically given up on rimfire guns.

Remington simply failed to keep up with the times and offer what the consumer wanted. At BEST, they were always 5-10 years behind the curve. And they failed to market products that COULD have been gamechangers for them (783, V3, Versamax) in any meaningful way. They TOTALLY abandoned ANY outreach, sponsorship, or marketing to the clay target market 20 years ago, which is where you typically reach a more affluent demographic.

Other than the brand, I doubt Remington currently holds any patents that any other company would care too much about.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington Auction
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:27 pm 
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[ They TOTALLY abandoned ANY outreach, sponsorship, or marketing to the clay target market 20 years ago, which is where you typically reach a more affluent demographic.


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SPARTA (IL) -Continuing with their proven partnership, The Amateur Trapshooting Association (ATA) expresses their gratitude and recognizes Remington Arms as a sponsor of the US Open, Grand American, & AIM Grand Championships. The ATA fully appreciates the extended commitment that Remington has demonstrated for decades and looks to continue the relationship for years to come.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington Auction
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:35 pm 
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[ They TOTALLY abandoned ANY outreach, sponsorship, or marketing to the clay target market 20 years ago, which is where you typically reach a more affluent demographic.


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SPARTA (IL) -Continuing with their proven partnership, The Amateur Trapshooting Association (ATA) expresses their gratitude and recognizes Remington Arms as a sponsor of the US Open, Grand American, & AIM Grand Championships. The ATA fully appreciates the extended commitment that Remington has demonstrated for decades and looks to continue the relationship for years to come.


And what did that "sponsorship" entail? A couple thousand bucks thrown at the shoots? Less than a drop in the bucket for Remington. There are dealers and companies exponentially smaller than Remington who give back to the clay target sports in higher amounts.

The best thing they had to market to NSSA skeet shooters was the V3 Walnut and the virtually non-existent Clay & Field shells. Yea, makes sense for a sport where relatively few even shoot autoloaders anymore and where very few of their potential customers can buy that ammo.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington Auction
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:22 pm 
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They TOTALLY abandoned ANY outreach, sponsorship, or marketing to the clay target market 20 years ago, which is where you typically reach a more affluent demographic.

Other than the brand, I doubt Remington currently holds any patents that any other company would care too much about.


Both are these points are clearly untrue. TOTALLY.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington Auction
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:20 pm 
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RandyWakeman wrote:
Skeet_Man wrote:
They TOTALLY abandoned ANY outreach, sponsorship, or marketing to the clay target market 20 years ago, which is where you typically reach a more affluent demographic.

Other than the brand, I doubt Remington currently holds any patents that any other company would care too much about.


Both are these points are clearly untrue. TOTALLY.


Hare to say it, but Wakeman is right, at least with regard to Remington helping out at shoots, and with some individuals. Say what you like about opinions regarding high level leadership/ownership, but Remington has and does have some very, very fine people. People who’ve gone above and beyond many times to help shoots/shooters out well within the last 20 years.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington Auction
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:00 pm 
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RandyWakeman wrote:
Skeet_Man wrote:
They TOTALLY abandoned ANY outreach, sponsorship, or marketing to the clay target market 20 years ago, which is where you typically reach a more affluent demographic.

Other than the brand, I doubt Remington currently holds any patents that any other company would care too much about.


Both are these points are clearly untrue. TOTALLY.


How many NSSA, NSCA, or ATA shooters are using Remington guns under contract? Answer, ZERO.

How many NSSA, NSCA, or ATA shooters are using Remington ammunition under contract? Answer (at least up until their first round of bankrupcy a couple years ago), about a dozen across all three.

That's more what I was thinking of in terms of sponsorship, but you could go further and talk about sponsoring events. Like I said before, there are companies that are literally 1/1000 the size, or smaller, than Remington who give more back to NSSA/NSCA/ATA shoots, both in terms of actual $ amounts and definitely by percentage of their annual revenue.

What patents does Remington hold that would be attractive to a buyer? Absolutely nothing from their rifle line. Virtually to absolutely nothing from their pistol line (perhaps the Boberg patent that the RM380 is derived from is still active? Nobody will care about the RP9 or the R51). Maybe the gas system from the Versamax, and maybe something from ammunition, but again, not that much. This is only showing they hold one active patent, that would presumably be for the Versamax gas system: https://patents.justia.com/assignee/rem ... ompany-inc That's kind of telling in and of itself, that Remington has basically only received 5 patents this century, assuming that list is all inclusive.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington Auction
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:53 pm 
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Heard a South Carolina private equity group offered ~$65 million for the ammunition facility and Sturm Ruger and a Thai firearms manufacturer filed papers to bid on other parts of the business.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington Auction
PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:57 am 
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mea culpa wrote:
Heard a South Carolina private equity group offered ~$65 million for the ammunition facility and Sturm Ruger and a Thai firearms manufacturer filed papers to bid on other parts of the business.


Yes. JJE Capital Holdings out of Columbia, SC. Stalking horse bidder. Palmetto State Armory is one of their portfolio companies so they have exposure and experience in the firearms industry.

Source for the Ruger and Thai manufacturing comment? No doubt lots of rumors out there.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington Auction
PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:37 am 
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That's kind of telling in and of itself, that Remington has basically only received 5 patents this century, assuming that list is all inclusive.


Please stop it.


Non-toxic primer mix
http://www.google.com/patents/US6478903
2019-04-25 Assigned to RA BRANDS, L.L.C., Remington Arms Company, LLC, BARNES BULLETS, LLC, FGI FINANCE INC., FGI OPERATING COMPANY, LLC ...
Grant - ‎Filed Oct 6, 2000 - ‎Issued Nov 12, 2002 - ‎Henry J. John, Jr. - ‎Ra Brands, Llc
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Priming mixtures for small arms
http://www.google.com/patents/US20050183805
2019-04-25 Assigned to RA BRANDS, L.L.C., Remington Arms Company, LLC, BARNES BULLETS, LLC, FGI FINANCE INC., FGI OPERATING COMPANY, LLC ...
App. - ‎Filed Jan 23, 2004 - ‎Published Aug 25, 2005 - ‎Donald Pile - ‎Pile Donald A.
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Bismuth oxide primer composition
http://www.google.com/patents/US8128766
2019-04-25 Assigned to RA BRANDS, L.L.C., Remington Arms Company, LLC, BARNES BULLETS, LLC, FGI FINANCE INC., FGI OPERATING COMPANY, LLC ...
Grant - ‎Filed Mar 23, 2005 - ‎Issued Mar 6, 2012 - ‎Donald A. Pile - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Priming Mixtures for Small Arms
http://www.google.com/patents/US20140305555
... Assigned to RA BRANDS, L.L.C., Remington Arms Company, LLC, BARNES BULLETS, LLC, FGI FINANCE INC., FGI OPERATING COMPANY, LLC, TMRI, ...
App. - ‎Filed Jun 26, 2014 - ‎Published Oct 16, 2014 - ‎Donald Allen Pile - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Black box profile
http://www.google.com/patents/USD598066
2019-04-25 Assigned to RA BRANDS, L.L.C., Remington Arms Company, LLC, BARNES BULLETS, LLC, FGI FINANCE INC., FGI OPERATING COMPANY, LLC ...
Grant - ‎Filed Jan 9, 2007 - ‎Issued Aug 11, 2009 - ‎Kevin Tyson Brittingham - ‎Kevin Tyson Brittingham
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Bismuth oxide primer composition
http://www.google.com/patents/US8597445
2018-05-21 Assigned to RA BRANDS, L.L.C., Remington Arms Company, LLC, BARNES BULLETS, LLC, TMRI, INC.
Grant - ‎Filed Feb 1, 2012 - ‎Issued Dec 3, 2013 - ‎Donald A. Pile - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Reduced friction expanding bullet with improved core ...
http://www.google.com/patents/CA2901145A1?cl=en
Application filed by RA Brands LLC ... Ra Brands, L.L.C. Multi-component bullet with core retention feature and method of manufacturing the bullet.
App. - ‎Filed Feb 11, 2014 - ‎Published Nov 20, 2014 - ‎Thomas J. Burczynski - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Firearm bullet
http://www.google.com/patents/USD791266
RA Brands LLC ... Application filed by RA Brands LLC.
Grant - ‎Filed May 28, 2015 - ‎Issued Jul 4, 2017 - ‎Thomas J. Burczynski - ‎R A Brands, L.L.C.
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Firearm bullet
http://www.google.com/patents/USD733834
RA Brands LLC ...
Grant - ‎Filed Aug 6, 2013 - ‎Issued Jul 7, 2015 - ‎Thomas J. Burczynski - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Firearm bullet
http://www.google.com/patents/USD734419
RA Brands LLC ... Ra Brands L.L.C. ... Ra Brands, L.L.C. Firearm bullet and portion of firearm cartridge.
Grant - ‎Filed Aug 6, 2013 - ‎Issued Jul 14, 2015 - ‎Thomas J. Burczynski - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Non-toxic primer mix
http://www.google.com/patents/CA2357632C?cl=en
... Application filed by RA Brands LLC ...
Grant - ‎Filed Sep 21, 2001 - ‎Issued Dec 8, 2009 - ‎Henry J. John, Jr. - ‎R.A. Brands, Llc.
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Firearm bullet
http://www.google.com/patents/USD733835
RA Brands LLC ... Ra Brands, L.L.C. ... Ra Brands, L.L.C. Firearm bullet and portion of firearm cartridge.
Grant - ‎Filed Aug 6, 2013 - ‎Issued Jul 7, 2015 - ‎Thomas J. Burczynski - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Firearm bullet
http://www.google.com/patents/USD733836
RA Brands LLC ... Ra Brands, L.L.C. ... Ra Brands, L.L.C. Firearm bullet and portion of firearm cartridge.
Grant - ‎Filed Aug 6, 2013 - ‎Issued Jul 7, 2015 - ‎Thomas J. Burczynski - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Metal matrix reactive composite projectiles
http://www.google.com/patents/EP2037208A2?cl=en
... Ra Brands, L.L.C. Three component bullet with core retention feature and ... 2015-06-30 Ra Brands, L.L.C. Firearm bullet and portion of firearm cartridge.
App. - ‎Filed Sep 11, 2008 - ‎Published Mar 18, 2009 - ‎Edward W. Sheridan - ‎Lockheed Martin Corporation
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Silencer tube
http://www.google.com/patents/USD585518
RA Brands LLC. Worldwide applications ... 2019-11-19 Ra Brands, L.L.C. ...
Grant - ‎Filed Jan 30, 2008 - ‎Issued Jan 27, 2009 - ‎Kevin Tyson Brittingham - ‎Kevin Tyson Brittingham
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Priming mixtures for small arms
http://www.google.com/patents/WO2006009579A2?cl=en
... 2005-01-21 Application filed by Ra Brands, L.L.C. ...
App. - ‎Filed Jan 21, 2005 - ‎Published Jan 26, 2006 - ‎Donald Allen Pile - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Firearm with an expansion chamber with variable volume
http://www.google.com/patents/WO1998053266A1?cl=en
... Ra Brands, L.L.C. Replaceable feed ramp. US9500423B2 2014-01-24 2016-11-22 Ra Brands, L.L.C. Method and mechanism for automatic regulation of gas ...
App. - ‎Filed May 22, 1998 - ‎Published Nov 26, 1998 - ‎Salvatore Tedde - ‎Salvatore Tedde
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Reduced friction expanding bullet with improved core ...
http://www.google.com/patents/WO2014186007A1?cl=en
Application filed by Ra Brands, L.L.C.. 2014-11-20 ... 2017-07-04 Ra Brands, L.L.C. ...
App. - ‎Filed Feb 11, 2014 - ‎Published Nov 20, 2014 - ‎Thomas J. Burczynski - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Shell casing with surface treatment
http://www.google.com/patents/USD753259
... Ra Brands, L.L.C. Firearm bullet. USD800245S1 * 2011-07-26 2017-10-17 Ra Brands, L.L.C. Firearm bullet.
Grant - ‎Filed Sep 9, 2014 - ‎Issued Apr 5, 2016 - ‎Kyle A. Masinelli - ‎Olin Corporation
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Bullets with lateral damage stopping power
http://www.google.com/patents/US9200878
... 2015-06-30 Ra ... 2015-07-28 R.A. Brands, L.L.C. ...
Grant - ‎Filed Oct 12, 2012 - ‎Issued Dec 1, 2015 - ‎Lueder Seecamp - ‎Lws Ammunition Llc
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Mushroom-bullet.
http://www.google.com/patents/US1081616
... 2011-07-26 2014-06-17 Ra ... Ra Brands, L.L.C. Firearm bullet and portion of firearm cartridge.
Grant - ‎Filed Sep 13, 1913 - ‎Issued Dec 16, 1913 - ‎Thomas C Johnson - ‎Winchester Repeating Arms Co
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Orientation apparatus for eccentric firearm noise suppressor ...
http://www.google.com/patents/US7588122
RA Brands LLC. Worldwide applications ... Ra Brands, L.L.C. Silencer with improved mount.
Grant - ‎Filed Aug 20, 2007 - ‎Issued Sep 15, 2009 - ‎Kevin Tyson Brittingham - ‎Kevin Tyson Brittingham
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Hand guard attachment system for firearms
http://www.google.com/patents/US8726557
2010-06-22. Application filed by RA Brands LLC. 2010-12-23. Publication of US20100319231A1. 2014-05-20. Publication of US8726557B2. 2014-05-20.
Grant - ‎Filed Jun 22, 2010 - ‎Issued May 20, 2014 - ‎Jeffrey W. Stone - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Cancellation muzzle brake assembly
http://www.google.com/patents/US20130227871
... Brands LLC. 2013-01-02. Priority to US13/694,775. 2013-01-28. Assigned to RA BRANDS, L.L.C.. ASSIGNMENT OF ASSIGNORS INTEREST ...
App. - ‎Filed Jan 2, 2013 - ‎Published Sep 5, 2013 - ‎Jeffrey W. Stone - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Silencer tube with internal stepped profile
http://www.google.com/patents/US7600606
RA Brands LLC ... Ra Brands, L.L.C. Silencer baffle assembly.
Grant - ‎Filed May 1, 2007 - ‎Issued Oct 13, 2009 - ‎Kevin Tyson Brittingham - ‎Kevin Tyson Brittingham
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Recoil reducer
http://www.google.com/patents/USD685873
RA Brands LLC. Worldwide applications.
Grant - ‎Filed Jan 5, 2012 - ‎Issued Jul 9, 2013 - ‎Travis Baker - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
‎Overview · ‎Related · ‎Discuss


Priming mixtures for small arms
http://www.google.com/patents/CA2556595C?cl=en
RA Brands LLC. Worldwide applications.
Grant - ‎Filed Jan 21, 2005 - ‎Issued Dec 8, 2009 - ‎Donald Allen Pile - ‎Ra Brands, Llc.
‎Overview · ‎Related · ‎Discuss

Non-lethal ammunition
http://www.google.com/patents/CA2640445C?cl=en
... R.A. Brands, L.L.C. Firearm bullet ... Ra Brands, L.L.C. Projectile and mold to cast projectile.
Grant - ‎Filed Feb 15, 2007 - ‎Issued Jun 8, 2010 - ‎John A. Kapeles - ‎Defense Technology Corporation Of America
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Accessory Rail Assembly for Firearms
http://www.google.com/patents/US20070199225
RA Brands LLC. Worldwide applications. 2007 US.
App. - ‎Filed Feb 8, 2007 - ‎Published Aug 30, 2007 - ‎Michael Haugen - ‎Haugen Michael D
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Straight-pull operated bolt lock for semi-automatic rifle
http://www.google.com/patents/EP1130350A3?cl=en
... 2012-02-08 Ra Brands, L.L.C. ... 2014-05-27 Ra Brands, L.L.C. Magazine cutoff. US8800422B2 2012-08-20 2014-08-12 Ra Brands, L.L.C. ...
App. - ‎Filed Jan 26, 2001 - ‎Published Jan 14, 2004 - ‎Ulrich Ockenfuss - ‎Sommer, Gerd
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Gas vent for firearm
http://www.google.com/patents/US9383154
RA Brands LLC. Worldwide applications.
Grant - ‎Filed Nov 17, 2014 - ‎Issued Jul 5, 2016 - ‎Jeffrey W. Stone - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Touch sensor firearm safety system
http://www.google.com/patents/US20060101694
... BANK, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION, AS AGENT,NORT. Free format text: SECURITY AGREEMENT;ASSIGNOR:RA BRANDS, L.L.C.;REEL/FRAME:023044/0516.
App. - ‎Filed Nov 10, 2005 - ‎Published May 18, 2006 - ‎David Matteson - ‎Matteson David O
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Gas vent for firearm
http://www.google.com/patents/US9383154
RA Brands LLC. Worldwide applications.
Grant - ‎Filed Nov 17, 2014 - ‎Issued Jul 5, 2016 - ‎Jeffrey W. Stone - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
‎Overview · ‎Related · ‎Discuss

Roller sear/hammer interface for firearms
http://www.google.com/patents/US7181880
2004-10-26. Application filed by RA Brands LLC. 2005-11-10. Publication of US20050246932A1. 2007-02-27. Publication of US7181880B2. 2007-02-27.
Grant - ‎Filed Oct 26, 2004 - ‎Issued Feb 27, 2007 - ‎Michael D. Keeney - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Jacketed projectile containing a two-part core
http://www.google.com/patents/EP0225532A1?cl=en
... 2014-07-31 Ra Brands, L.L.C. Multi-component bullet with core retention feature and method of manufacturing the bullet. USD733252S1 ...
App. - ‎Filed Nov 22, 1986 - ‎Published Jun 16, 1987 - ‎Rudolf Sigl - ‎Dynamit Nobel Aktiengesellschaft
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Gas regulator for gas operated firearms
http://www.google.com/patents/US4102243
... Ra Brands, L.L.C. ... 2015-08-04 Ra ...
Grant - ‎Filed Sep 27, 1976 - ‎Issued Jul 25, 1978 - ‎Fred LeRoy Jennie - ‎Weatherby, Inc.
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Magazine cap retention system
http://www.google.com/patents/US20130091750
2011-10-13. Application filed by RA Brands LLC. 2011-10-13. Priority to US13/272,827. 2013-04-16. Publication of US8418393B1. 2013-04-16.
App. - ‎Filed Oct 13, 2011 - ‎Published Apr 18, 2013 - ‎Thomas P. Powers - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Projectile for fire arms
http://www.google.com/patents/EP2133655A3?cl=en
... R.A. Brands, L.L.C. Firearm bullet. USD733252S1 * 2011-07-26 2015-06-30 Ra Brands ...
App. - ‎Filed Jun 5, 2009 - ‎Published May 30, 2012 - ‎Ake Nilsson - ‎Norma Precision AB
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Wad with ignition chamber
http://www.google.com/patents/US9500453
RA Brands LLC ...
Grant - ‎Filed Aug 8, 2014 - ‎Issued Nov 22, 2016 - ‎David K. Schluckebier - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Modular silencer system
http://www.google.com/patents/US9506710
RA Brands LLC. Worldwide applications. 2016 US. Application number: US14/994,567. Filing date: 2016-01-13.
Grant - ‎Filed Jan 13, 2016 - ‎Issued Nov 29, 2016 - ‎Michael Leighton Smith - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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 Post subject: Re: Remington Auction
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RandyWakeman wrote:
Skeet_Man wrote:
That's kind of telling in and of itself, that Remington has basically only received 5 patents this century, assuming that list is all inclusive.


Please stop it.


Non-toxic primer mix
http://www.google.com/patents/US6478903
2019-04-25 Assigned to RA BRANDS, L.L.C., Remington Arms Company, LLC, BARNES BULLETS, LLC, FGI FINANCE INC., FGI OPERATING COMPANY, LLC ...
Grant - ‎Filed Oct 6, 2000 - ‎Issued Nov 12, 2002 - ‎Henry J. John, Jr. - ‎Ra Brands, Llc
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Priming mixtures for small arms
http://www.google.com/patents/US20050183805
2019-04-25 Assigned to RA BRANDS, L.L.C., Remington Arms Company, LLC, BARNES BULLETS, LLC, FGI FINANCE INC., FGI OPERATING COMPANY, LLC ...
App. - ‎Filed Jan 23, 2004 - ‎Published Aug 25, 2005 - ‎Donald Pile - ‎Pile Donald A.
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Bismuth oxide primer composition
http://www.google.com/patents/US8128766
2019-04-25 Assigned to RA BRANDS, L.L.C., Remington Arms Company, LLC, BARNES BULLETS, LLC, FGI FINANCE INC., FGI OPERATING COMPANY, LLC ...
Grant - ‎Filed Mar 23, 2005 - ‎Issued Mar 6, 2012 - ‎Donald A. Pile - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Priming Mixtures for Small Arms
http://www.google.com/patents/US20140305555
... Assigned to RA BRANDS, L.L.C., Remington Arms Company, LLC, BARNES BULLETS, LLC, FGI FINANCE INC., FGI OPERATING COMPANY, LLC, TMRI, ...
App. - ‎Filed Jun 26, 2014 - ‎Published Oct 16, 2014 - ‎Donald Allen Pile - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
‎Overview · ‎Related · ‎Discuss

Black box profile
http://www.google.com/patents/USD598066
2019-04-25 Assigned to RA BRANDS, L.L.C., Remington Arms Company, LLC, BARNES BULLETS, LLC, FGI FINANCE INC., FGI OPERATING COMPANY, LLC ...
Grant - ‎Filed Jan 9, 2007 - ‎Issued Aug 11, 2009 - ‎Kevin Tyson Brittingham - ‎Kevin Tyson Brittingham
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Bismuth oxide primer composition
http://www.google.com/patents/US8597445
2018-05-21 Assigned to RA BRANDS, L.L.C., Remington Arms Company, LLC, BARNES BULLETS, LLC, TMRI, INC.
Grant - ‎Filed Feb 1, 2012 - ‎Issued Dec 3, 2013 - ‎Donald A. Pile - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
‎Overview · ‎Related · ‎Discuss

Reduced friction expanding bullet with improved core ...
http://www.google.com/patents/CA2901145A1?cl=en
Application filed by RA Brands LLC ... Ra Brands, L.L.C. Multi-component bullet with core retention feature and method of manufacturing the bullet.
App. - ‎Filed Feb 11, 2014 - ‎Published Nov 20, 2014 - ‎Thomas J. Burczynski - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
‎Overview · ‎Related · ‎Discuss

Firearm bullet
http://www.google.com/patents/USD791266
RA Brands LLC ... Application filed by RA Brands LLC.
Grant - ‎Filed May 28, 2015 - ‎Issued Jul 4, 2017 - ‎Thomas J. Burczynski - ‎R A Brands, L.L.C.
‎Overview · ‎Related · ‎Discuss

Firearm bullet
http://www.google.com/patents/USD733834
RA Brands LLC ...
Grant - ‎Filed Aug 6, 2013 - ‎Issued Jul 7, 2015 - ‎Thomas J. Burczynski - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
‎Overview · ‎Related · ‎Discuss

Firearm bullet
http://www.google.com/patents/USD734419
RA Brands LLC ... Ra Brands L.L.C. ... Ra Brands, L.L.C. Firearm bullet and portion of firearm cartridge.
Grant - ‎Filed Aug 6, 2013 - ‎Issued Jul 14, 2015 - ‎Thomas J. Burczynski - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
‎Overview · ‎Related · ‎Discuss


Non-toxic primer mix
http://www.google.com/patents/CA2357632C?cl=en
... Application filed by RA Brands LLC ...
Grant - ‎Filed Sep 21, 2001 - ‎Issued Dec 8, 2009 - ‎Henry J. John, Jr. - ‎R.A. Brands, Llc.
‎Overview · ‎Related · ‎Discuss

Firearm bullet
http://www.google.com/patents/USD733835
RA Brands LLC ... Ra Brands, L.L.C. ... Ra Brands, L.L.C. Firearm bullet and portion of firearm cartridge.
Grant - ‎Filed Aug 6, 2013 - ‎Issued Jul 7, 2015 - ‎Thomas J. Burczynski - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
‎Overview · ‎Related · ‎Discuss

Firearm bullet
http://www.google.com/patents/USD733836
RA Brands LLC ... Ra Brands, L.L.C. ... Ra Brands, L.L.C. Firearm bullet and portion of firearm cartridge.
Grant - ‎Filed Aug 6, 2013 - ‎Issued Jul 7, 2015 - ‎Thomas J. Burczynski - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Metal matrix reactive composite projectiles
http://www.google.com/patents/EP2037208A2?cl=en
... Ra Brands, L.L.C. Three component bullet with core retention feature and ... 2015-06-30 Ra Brands, L.L.C. Firearm bullet and portion of firearm cartridge.
App. - ‎Filed Sep 11, 2008 - ‎Published Mar 18, 2009 - ‎Edward W. Sheridan - ‎Lockheed Martin Corporation
‎Overview · ‎Related · ‎Discuss

Silencer tube
http://www.google.com/patents/USD585518
RA Brands LLC. Worldwide applications ... 2019-11-19 Ra Brands, L.L.C. ...
Grant - ‎Filed Jan 30, 2008 - ‎Issued Jan 27, 2009 - ‎Kevin Tyson Brittingham - ‎Kevin Tyson Brittingham
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Priming mixtures for small arms
http://www.google.com/patents/WO2006009579A2?cl=en
... 2005-01-21 Application filed by Ra Brands, L.L.C. ...
App. - ‎Filed Jan 21, 2005 - ‎Published Jan 26, 2006 - ‎Donald Allen Pile - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Firearm with an expansion chamber with variable volume
http://www.google.com/patents/WO1998053266A1?cl=en
... Ra Brands, L.L.C. Replaceable feed ramp. US9500423B2 2014-01-24 2016-11-22 Ra Brands, L.L.C. Method and mechanism for automatic regulation of gas ...
App. - ‎Filed May 22, 1998 - ‎Published Nov 26, 1998 - ‎Salvatore Tedde - ‎Salvatore Tedde
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Reduced friction expanding bullet with improved core ...
http://www.google.com/patents/WO2014186007A1?cl=en
Application filed by Ra Brands, L.L.C.. 2014-11-20 ... 2017-07-04 Ra Brands, L.L.C. ...
App. - ‎Filed Feb 11, 2014 - ‎Published Nov 20, 2014 - ‎Thomas J. Burczynski - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Shell casing with surface treatment
http://www.google.com/patents/USD753259
... Ra Brands, L.L.C. Firearm bullet. USD800245S1 * 2011-07-26 2017-10-17 Ra Brands, L.L.C. Firearm bullet.
Grant - ‎Filed Sep 9, 2014 - ‎Issued Apr 5, 2016 - ‎Kyle A. Masinelli - ‎Olin Corporation
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Bullets with lateral damage stopping power
http://www.google.com/patents/US9200878
... 2015-06-30 Ra ... 2015-07-28 R.A. Brands, L.L.C. ...
Grant - ‎Filed Oct 12, 2012 - ‎Issued Dec 1, 2015 - ‎Lueder Seecamp - ‎Lws Ammunition Llc
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Mushroom-bullet.
http://www.google.com/patents/US1081616
... 2011-07-26 2014-06-17 Ra ... Ra Brands, L.L.C. Firearm bullet and portion of firearm cartridge.
Grant - ‎Filed Sep 13, 1913 - ‎Issued Dec 16, 1913 - ‎Thomas C Johnson - ‎Winchester Repeating Arms Co
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Orientation apparatus for eccentric firearm noise suppressor ...
http://www.google.com/patents/US7588122
RA Brands LLC. Worldwide applications ... Ra Brands, L.L.C. Silencer with improved mount.
Grant - ‎Filed Aug 20, 2007 - ‎Issued Sep 15, 2009 - ‎Kevin Tyson Brittingham - ‎Kevin Tyson Brittingham
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Hand guard attachment system for firearms
http://www.google.com/patents/US8726557
2010-06-22. Application filed by RA Brands LLC. 2010-12-23. Publication of US20100319231A1. 2014-05-20. Publication of US8726557B2. 2014-05-20.
Grant - ‎Filed Jun 22, 2010 - ‎Issued May 20, 2014 - ‎Jeffrey W. Stone - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Cancellation muzzle brake assembly
http://www.google.com/patents/US20130227871
... Brands LLC. 2013-01-02. Priority to US13/694,775. 2013-01-28. Assigned to RA BRANDS, L.L.C.. ASSIGNMENT OF ASSIGNORS INTEREST ...
App. - ‎Filed Jan 2, 2013 - ‎Published Sep 5, 2013 - ‎Jeffrey W. Stone - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Silencer tube with internal stepped profile
http://www.google.com/patents/US7600606
RA Brands LLC ... Ra Brands, L.L.C. Silencer baffle assembly.
Grant - ‎Filed May 1, 2007 - ‎Issued Oct 13, 2009 - ‎Kevin Tyson Brittingham - ‎Kevin Tyson Brittingham
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Recoil reducer
http://www.google.com/patents/USD685873
RA Brands LLC. Worldwide applications.
Grant - ‎Filed Jan 5, 2012 - ‎Issued Jul 9, 2013 - ‎Travis Baker - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Priming mixtures for small arms
http://www.google.com/patents/CA2556595C?cl=en
RA Brands LLC. Worldwide applications.
Grant - ‎Filed Jan 21, 2005 - ‎Issued Dec 8, 2009 - ‎Donald Allen Pile - ‎Ra Brands, Llc.
‎Overview · ‎Related · ‎Discuss

Non-lethal ammunition
http://www.google.com/patents/CA2640445C?cl=en
... R.A. Brands, L.L.C. Firearm bullet ... Ra Brands, L.L.C. Projectile and mold to cast projectile.
Grant - ‎Filed Feb 15, 2007 - ‎Issued Jun 8, 2010 - ‎John A. Kapeles - ‎Defense Technology Corporation Of America
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Accessory Rail Assembly for Firearms
http://www.google.com/patents/US20070199225
RA Brands LLC. Worldwide applications. 2007 US.
App. - ‎Filed Feb 8, 2007 - ‎Published Aug 30, 2007 - ‎Michael Haugen - ‎Haugen Michael D
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Straight-pull operated bolt lock for semi-automatic rifle
http://www.google.com/patents/EP1130350A3?cl=en
... 2012-02-08 Ra Brands, L.L.C. ... 2014-05-27 Ra Brands, L.L.C. Magazine cutoff. US8800422B2 2012-08-20 2014-08-12 Ra Brands, L.L.C. ...
App. - ‎Filed Jan 26, 2001 - ‎Published Jan 14, 2004 - ‎Ulrich Ockenfuss - ‎Sommer, Gerd
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Gas vent for firearm
http://www.google.com/patents/US9383154
RA Brands LLC. Worldwide applications.
Grant - ‎Filed Nov 17, 2014 - ‎Issued Jul 5, 2016 - ‎Jeffrey W. Stone - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Touch sensor firearm safety system
http://www.google.com/patents/US20060101694
... BANK, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION, AS AGENT,NORT. Free format text: SECURITY AGREEMENT;ASSIGNOR:RA BRANDS, L.L.C.;REEL/FRAME:023044/0516.
App. - ‎Filed Nov 10, 2005 - ‎Published May 18, 2006 - ‎David Matteson - ‎Matteson David O
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Gas vent for firearm
http://www.google.com/patents/US9383154
RA Brands LLC. Worldwide applications.
Grant - ‎Filed Nov 17, 2014 - ‎Issued Jul 5, 2016 - ‎Jeffrey W. Stone - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Roller sear/hammer interface for firearms
http://www.google.com/patents/US7181880
2004-10-26. Application filed by RA Brands LLC. 2005-11-10. Publication of US20050246932A1. 2007-02-27. Publication of US7181880B2. 2007-02-27.
Grant - ‎Filed Oct 26, 2004 - ‎Issued Feb 27, 2007 - ‎Michael D. Keeney - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Jacketed projectile containing a two-part core
http://www.google.com/patents/EP0225532A1?cl=en
... 2014-07-31 Ra Brands, L.L.C. Multi-component bullet with core retention feature and method of manufacturing the bullet. USD733252S1 ...
App. - ‎Filed Nov 22, 1986 - ‎Published Jun 16, 1987 - ‎Rudolf Sigl - ‎Dynamit Nobel Aktiengesellschaft
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Gas regulator for gas operated firearms
http://www.google.com/patents/US4102243
... Ra Brands, L.L.C. ... 2015-08-04 Ra ...
Grant - ‎Filed Sep 27, 1976 - ‎Issued Jul 25, 1978 - ‎Fred LeRoy Jennie - ‎Weatherby, Inc.
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Magazine cap retention system
http://www.google.com/patents/US20130091750
2011-10-13. Application filed by RA Brands LLC. 2011-10-13. Priority to US13/272,827. 2013-04-16. Publication of US8418393B1. 2013-04-16.
App. - ‎Filed Oct 13, 2011 - ‎Published Apr 18, 2013 - ‎Thomas P. Powers - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Projectile for fire arms
http://www.google.com/patents/EP2133655A3?cl=en
... R.A. Brands, L.L.C. Firearm bullet. USD733252S1 * 2011-07-26 2015-06-30 Ra Brands ...
App. - ‎Filed Jun 5, 2009 - ‎Published May 30, 2012 - ‎Ake Nilsson - ‎Norma Precision AB
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Wad with ignition chamber
http://www.google.com/patents/US9500453
RA Brands LLC ...
Grant - ‎Filed Aug 8, 2014 - ‎Issued Nov 22, 2016 - ‎David K. Schluckebier - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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Modular silencer system
http://www.google.com/patents/US9506710
RA Brands LLC. Worldwide applications. 2016 US. Application number: US14/994,567. Filing date: 2016-01-13.
Grant - ‎Filed Jan 13, 2016 - ‎Issued Nov 29, 2016 - ‎Michael Leighton Smith - ‎Ra Brands, L.L.C.
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OK, I'll give you some of that. Never thought to look for "RA Brands". However, I did preface my statement by saying "maybe something from ammunition" and "if that list is all inclusive".

Also, I'm going to assume you didn't bother reading the links you posted, since the actual breakdown of them is as follows:

-Ammunition: 8 (Three abandoned)
-Foreign Patents: 5
-Freedom Group: 9 (One abandoned, I don't recall Remington making suppressors...)
-Other companies erroneously included: 10
-Remington Firearm: 2 (Two for 700 which have been abandoned, Trigger components and mag spring retainer for the Versamax).

BFD

So to qualify what you found against my statement, I was still pretty much correct. Sorry, but you didn't do what you think you did there.

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Acquired by Remington in 2009

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Acquired by Remington in 2009


More accurately they were acquired by Freedom Group, who own(d) Remington, and in and of itself was a subset of Cerberus at the time.

It appears Freedom Group was subsequently renamed "Remington Outdoor Company", which encompassed Remington plus all of the other FG Brands:

Remington
Barnes Bullets
Bushmaster
DPMS
Advanced Armament
Marlin Firearms
H & R Firearms
Para USA
The Parker Gun
Dakota Arms
Tapco
Storm Lake Barrels

Para, DPMS, Bushmaster, Tapco, and Storm Lake have all been shut down. I believe H&R is mostly or completely gone. It appears AAC is mostly dead.

Of the suppressor patents Randy listed, I can only find one that came FROM Remington, the rest were bought as part of the AAC deal.

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Sorry, kind of got lost in all this back and forth verbiage. What are we trying to accomplish here?

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The claim was made:
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The problem is that Remington offers VERY little that is truly unique or special anymore, and that another company can't do better for the same money, or the same for less money.

Other than the brand, I doubt Remington currently holds any patents that any other company would care too much about.


I'm staging a peaceful protest, as I know better. Remington controls countless patents, not to mention proprietary tooling, custom machinery, and methods and procedures that any major firearms company would love to be able to use. If they didn't have to buy the entire company to get them, that is.

Another gripe was that Remington doesn't throw enough money at sponsorships, which is not clear-thinking considering the support Remington has extended to the NSSF, NRA, and many local, state, and nation-wide shooting organizations . . . all while they themselves have been losing money.

As far as the theory that "another company can't do better for the same money, or the same for less money" that does speak extraordinarily well of Ruger, S & W, Savage, Browning and several other companies that are unable to do so. Perhaps all of them including Beretta will suddenly make a better 870 than Remington, but in the last 70 years they have not. The Versa Max and the V3 have both been quite successful, much to the chagrin of perpetual naysayers. The Marlin line has been very, very strong as well . . . but yet again, popular lever action rifles continue to elude the likes of S & W, Ruger, Beretta, et alia.

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Sorry, kind of got lost in all this back and forth verbiage. What are we trying to accomplish here?

Excellent question.

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Tidefanatic wrote:
Sorry, kind of got lost in all this back and forth verbiage. What are we trying to accomplish here?

It’s amazing, isn’t it?


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The claim was made:
Skeet_Man wrote:
The problem is that Remington offers VERY little that is truly unique or special anymore, and that another company can't do better for the same money, or the same for less money.

Other than the brand, I doubt Remington currently holds any patents that any other company would care too much about.


I'm staging a peaceful protest, as I know better. Remington controls countless patents, not to mention proprietary tooling, custom machinery, and methods and procedures that any major firearms company would love to be able to use. If they didn't have to buy the entire company to get them, that is.

Another gripe was that Remington doesn't throw enough money at sponsorships, which is not clear-thinking considering the support Remington has extended to the NSSF, NRA, and many local, state, and nation-wide shooting organizations . . . all while they themselves have been losing money.

As far as the theory that "another company can't do better for the same money, or the same for less money" that does speak extraordinarily well of Ruger, S & W, Savage, Browning and several other companies that are unable to do so. Perhaps all of them including Beretta will suddenly make a better 870 than Remington, but in the last 70 years they have not. The Versa Max and the V3 have both been quite successful, much to the chagrin of perpetual naysayers. The Marlin line has been very, very strong as well . . . but yet again, popular lever action rifles continue to elude the likes of S & W, Ruger, Beretta, et alia.
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