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b79holmes
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Post subject: Trying to get a handle on the smaller gauge 1100's Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:04 pm |
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Starting to look at 1100's in 16ga or 28ga (and maybe a 20). I have 3 Browning O/U's but my wife complains about fit. Looking at other options and I had an 1100 decades ago. Usage is clays and maybe Pheasants over dogs. Most 28's are skeet guns but none I see for sale in the last month have choke tubes. When did Remington introduce them? Don't pretty much all new guns have them? Is it easy enough to add them to all 1100's ? In my limited experience with pheasants over dogs the shots are very close but is a skeet choke on a 28ga still too open in the field? Bill
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Post subject: Re: Trying to get a handle on the smaller gauge 1100's Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:24 pm |
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You might look into Remington's LT-20 model 1100. Its a 20 ga. built on a 28 ga. frame. The one I have is a 20 ga. Magnum model but handles regular hunting loads also.
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Post subject: Re: Trying to get a handle on the smaller gauge 1100's Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:27 pm |
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The 1100 in 16 is basically a 12 ga with smaller bore barrel. Not a lot of those out there. The new 20 and 28’s have interchangeable chokes, so it would be just a barrel swap to get them on a older fixed choke gun. Not sure what the latest bankruptcy has done to prices or parts supply.
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Post subject: Re: Trying to get a handle on the smaller gauge 1100's Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:42 pm |
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The newer 16s are pigs. The older fixed choke models are lighter, more nimble and very hard to find
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Post subject: Re: Trying to get a handle on the smaller gauge 1100's Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:18 pm |
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Mike Orlen or Brileys can install choke tubes in a 28 gauge 1100. I like the older ones with the 25" barrel and with choke tubes it handles like a dream.
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Post subject: Re: Trying to get a handle on the smaller gauge 1100's Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:04 pm |
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So I'm searching for 1100 vs 1100 sporting vs. 11-87 conversations on the web and someone said that a LT-20 can't handle heavy 2 3/4 shells, maybe even not pheasant loads and you need a different barrel for that. True? That the 11-87 can handle them but not the 1100. I can see a 3" magnum gun not ejecting light 2 3/4 loads but I'd of thought if you have the length right you are okay. No? Bill
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Post subject: Re: Trying to get a handle on the smaller gauge 1100's Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:07 pm |
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I had the 1100 sporting in 28 gauge - it had choke tubes. it was heavy and therefore great for clays; but I sure wouldn't want to carry that all day afield.
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Post subject: Re: Trying to get a handle on the smaller gauge 1100's Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:08 pm |
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All of the sub gauge guns are heavy because they are made of steel instead of alloy pot metal. If you are looking for a lightweight carry gun, then you should look elsewhere. The 1100s are old school heavy. Perhaps that’s why they were the skeet gun of choice years ago.
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Post subject: Re: Trying to get a handle on the smaller gauge 1100's Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:28 pm |
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b79holmes wrote: So I'm searching for 1100 vs 1100 sporting vs. 11-87 conversations on the web and someone said that a LT-20 can't handle heavy 2 3/4 shells, maybe even not pheasant loads and you need a different barrel for that. True? Not true at all. https://www.americanrifleman.org/articl ... odel-1100/ 3 inch 12 and 20 gauge 1100s often did not do well with light target loads: the 11-87 took care of that.
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Post subject: Re: Trying to get a handle on the smaller gauge 1100's Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:19 pm |
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An 1100 Sporting carries instructions not to use heavy loads, because of the barrel. Due to the popularity of mouse fart loads Remington went to bigger gas ports. A non Sporting LT 20 can handle any load it is chambered for. If you put a 2-3/4" barrel on an LT-20 Magnum, I would advise changing the action sleeve if you plan to shoot heavy 2-3/4" loads. LT-20 Magnums were notably less forgiving with less than Magnum loads; way more so than the 12 gauges.
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Post subject: Re: Trying to get a handle on the smaller gauge 1100's Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:52 am |
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Only advice I can make...the hulls will be ejected into the next county
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Post subject: Re: Trying to get a handle on the smaller gauge 1100's Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 1:12 pm |
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Model 1100 28 gauge guns have a well deserved reputation for flinging hulls. I have found most of them will still work with no O ring, or a smaller one, and greatly reduce the ejection distance.
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Post subject: Re: Trying to get a handle on the smaller gauge 1100's Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:02 pm |
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casonet wrote: The newer 16s are pigs. The older fixed choke models are lighter, more nimble and very hard to find I have one of the "new" 1100 16's 26 inch barrel, weighs 8 pounds 4.4 ounces. Basically a railroad tie with a barrel and trigger cdb
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