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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Optima HP Chokes
PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 4:12 pm 
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They did reply! I'm impressed. I now have a more complete listing of 12 ga Optima HP choke measurements.

Now if they would just update that webpage....

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Hello DallasCMT:

Thank you for contacting Beretta Customer Support.

SKT USA is 0.726", SKT EU is 0.759, and LM is 0.715"

Best regards,

Beretta Customer Support

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Optima HP Chokes
PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 4:17 pm 
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Nice! :)

I told you, their online customer support rocks!


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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Optima HP Chokes
PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 4:21 pm 
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I failed to ask Beretta for the Light Full choke measurement... oh well, I don't use it, anyway.

Here's an updated table. The numbers in bold were added by me, from Beretta provided specs.

12 Gauge Optima HP Choke Measurements:

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Here's how they line up with each other, the choke difference from the Bore diameter, and their differences from the industry standard choke constrictions:

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It's interesting that Cylinder is not the bore diameter, and how close CYL and SKT are.


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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Optima HP Chokes
PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 12:01 am 
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This is interesting. A Beretta EStore guy from Italy replied and gave me the full choke measurements in metric. I converted them to inches. They are slightly different than what the other Beretta group gave me.

I think I'll believe the Italians.

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Optima HP Chokes
PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:10 pm 
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Hmmmm a lot of good info here, I'm just gonna roll with factory CYL/SK on the skeet field. I figure if I miss its my fault even if it's .001 construction. Still up in the air if I should roll factory IC/IC for sporting or pick up a LM and use IC/LM for sporting. Either way .004 difference in constriction won't knot my panties in a bunch. Thanks for the info guys!

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Optima HP Chokes
PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:59 pm 
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I bought an extra IC for my 686 Sporting and have been shooting two IC's ever since. They work great on clays, and I keep them in for skeet just to keep the same feel. I also bought a LM but have yet to use it.


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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Optima HP Chokes
PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:41 pm 
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Ok thanks! I'll probably pick up the IC. I shot IC/IC Carlsons in my B725 and it worked out great

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Optima HP Chokes
PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:17 pm 
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alex124485 wrote:
Ok thanks! I'll probably pick up the IC. I shot IC/IC Carlsons in my B725 and it worked out great


Just a note, the Carlson's IC (.723) is not the same as the Beretta IC (.719)


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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Optima HP Chokes
PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:36 pm 
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Yup, Beretta's IC in 12ga Optima HP is closer to industry standard LM, than IC. Makes a great clays choke.


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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Optima HP Chokes
PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:41 pm 
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Ok great! Thanks for the advice and info !

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Optima HP Chokes
PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:27 am 
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There is no factory extended light modified.


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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Optima HP Chokes
PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:27 am 
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Mine are all flush.


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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Optima HP Chokes
PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:45 am 
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Oh, I thought there was an orange HP choke

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Optima HP Chokes
PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:17 pm 
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Beretta doesn't seem to make a full set of extended Optima HP chokes. This is all I see, in 12ga:

http://www.berettausa.com/en-us/beretta ... 12ga/c621/

http://www.berettausa.com/en-us/beretta ... and/c6213/


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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Optima HP Chokes
PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:28 pm 
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Thanks for the list - now I know a little more about how my Trulock LM compares (.718). I wonder where the Briley LF comes in at?

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Optima HP Chokes
PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:39 pm 
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I like the look of the Briley Spectrum chokes, but just can't bring myself to plunk down the cash when the stock, flush tubes are doing just fine. IC/IC is about all I need. Or LM for a further shot.


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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Optima HP Chokes
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:20 pm 
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I ended up picking up an extra factory IC choke for my 692 sporting and shot sporting clays as well as 5 stand here in College Station and wow just as others have reported it really smokes the clays! I love this gun! For skeet im still using CYL/SK set up

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Optima HP Chokes
PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:08 am 
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I did the same thing... and agree, it's a great setup.


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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Optima HP Chokes
PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:19 pm 
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DallasCMT wrote:
Yup, Beretta's IC in 12ga Optima HP is closer to industry standard LM, than IC. Makes a great clays choke.


Sorry for resurrecting an old thread but I've been researching an LM choke for my A400 Light and ran across this thread.

I put IC in the gun when I bought it and have never pulled it out. I have a barrel mic and it measures .008" constriction which differs from the info above. I never use full choke so decided to open it up in my lathe to see if I could get close to LM. It ended up at .012" which is a bit more open than I want given it's only .004" larger than the factory IC.

Incidentally, .008" seems to be exactly what my other Beretta IC mobilchokes measure in my 12 gauge 686. I remember my 28 gauge 687 being about .002" more open than "standard" for IC as well. In other words, I've found Berettas to have a touch more open chokes than standard which seems to be in direct contradiction to what they told you.


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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Optima HP Chokes
PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:16 pm 
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I don't care for Beretta's deviation from standard constrictions and bought a set of Carlson's Sporting Clay tubes when I wanted extended chokes for my SP1 Sporting. They've been wholly satisfactory so far.




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