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 Post subject: Re: Gas system and lubrication question
PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:56 pm 
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Let's keep arguing! I love it!
Run 'em wet!!!


I'm having a rough time with this. I'm typically the guy who frowns on someone doing something that the manufacturer specifically advises against. But in this case, I'm that someone... :oops:



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 Post subject: Re: Gas system and lubrication question
PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:40 pm 
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When you hear, "do not oil" . . . remember, Breakfree CLP is not gun oil.

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 Post subject: Re: Gas system and lubrication question
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:36 am 
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RandyWakeman wrote:
When you hear, "do not oil" . . . remember, Breakfree CLP is not gun oil.


Randy, why would a gun company say to run dry on moving metal parts???
Any idea as to their rationale?


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 Post subject: Re: Gas system and lubrication question
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:59 am 
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Didn’t Beretta advertise that the Urika 2 was SELF CLEANING and there fore did not require cleaning ever??
The same company that says to run your SA dry?? :w


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 Post subject: Re: Gas system and lubrication question
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:32 am 
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Didn’t Beretta advertise that the Urika 2 was SELF CLEANING and there fore did not require cleaning ever??
The same company that says to run your SA dry?? :w

That's not what the Beretta guy said. He said no lubrication in the gas system run that dry. He does mention many other parts to lubricate. Watch the entire video. What is your source for Beretta stating the gun never needs to be cleaned?


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 Post subject: Re: Gas system and lubrication question
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:30 am 
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Dr Duk wrote:
RandyWakeman wrote:
When you hear, "do not oil" . . . remember, Breakfree CLP is not gun oil.


Randy, why would a gun company say to run dry on moving metal parts???
Any idea as to their rationale?


Take your pick:

People don't read owners manuals.

Translation from Italian to American English rarely works well.

Beretta doesn't make "Beretta Genuine Gas Piston Lube" yet.

Over-lubrication is a legitimate problem. By babbling about no lube, it theoretically takes care of over-lubing.

I've cleaned as many "self-cleaning gas systems" as anyone. That's just wishful thinking.

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 Post subject: Re: Gas system and lubrication question
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:32 am 
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lt0026 wrote:
Dr Duk wrote:
Didn’t Beretta advertise that the Urika 2 was SELF CLEANING and there fore did not require cleaning ever??
The same company that says to run your SA dry?? :w

That's not what the Beretta guy said. He said no lubrication in the gas system run that dry. He does mention many other parts to lubricate. Watch the entire video. What is your source for Beretta stating the gun never needs to be cleaned?


Advertising campaign for the Urika 2, I think.


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 Post subject: Re: Gas system and lubrication question
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:44 am 
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The Urika 2 introduced the serrated gas piston. Which is supposed to help keep the piston cleaner. It has nothing to do with lubrication.


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 Post subject: Re: Gas system and lubrication question
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:46 am 
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Check that the piston slides freely inside the gas cylinder.Carefully clean the inner side of the gas cylinder with a bronze brush sprayed with Beretta gun oil.When all combustion residues are removed, clean the inside of the gas cylinderwith a soft cloth.Carefully clean the piston and check that the piston bushing can move freely in itshousing.If necessary, also clean the exhaust valve and the magazine tube cap shaft.


But, see: https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewto ... 7&t=176788

Don't you wish the forearm cap was self-cleaning?

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 Post subject: Re: Gas system and lubrication question
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:48 am 
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lt0026 wrote:
The Urika 2 introduced the serrated gas piston. Which is supposed to help keep the piston cleaner. It has nothing to do with lubrication.


No need to lube, it was self cleaning?? {V*


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 Post subject: Re: Gas system and lubrication question
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:02 pm 
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Dr Duk wrote:
lt0026 wrote:
The Urika 2 introduced the serrated gas piston. Which is supposed to help keep the piston cleaner. It has nothing to do with lubrication.


No need to lube, it was self cleaning?? {V*


The video tells you all you need to know. I don't pretend to know more than a master gunsmith at Beretta. If you know more or better than him you need to get a job at Beretta.


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 Post subject: Re: Gas system and lubrication question
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Single shots don't need much cleaning to be single shots.

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 Post subject: Re: Gas system and lubrication question
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:18 pm 
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RandyWakeman wrote:
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Single shots don't need much cleaning to be single shots.


Great looking single shot though!


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 Post subject: Re: Gas system and lubrication question
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:57 pm 
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lt0026 wrote:
Dr Duk wrote:
lt0026 wrote:
The Urika 2 introduced the serrated gas piston. Which is supposed to help keep the piston cleaner. It has nothing to do with lubrication.


No need to lube, it was self cleaning?? {V*


The video tells you all you need to know. I don't pretend to know more than a master gunsmith at Beretta. If you know more or better than him you need to get a job at Beretta.


I don’t watch videos.


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 Post subject: Re: Gas system and lubrication question
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:14 pm 
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RandyWakeman wrote:
Single shots don't need much cleaning to be single shots.


Keep trying, Randy. The Italian guns took the semi-auto market away from Remington years ago. My Beretta autos (AL390, AL391, A300) are all faultless performers. Maybe the Remington A.R.G.O. -- I mean V3 -- will win back some consumers. I doubt your continued bashing will help swing the tide. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Gas system and lubrication question
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Keep trying, Randy.


Trying for what?

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 Post subject: Re: Gas system and lubrication question
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:51 pm 
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Beretta owns the SA competition market. No one comes close.


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 Post subject: Re: Gas system and lubrication question
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:02 pm 
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RandyWakeman wrote:
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Single shots don't need much cleaning to be single shots.


I hope you kept that gun......can’t find a better gun today.


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 Post subject: Re: Gas system and lubrication question
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:06 pm 
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Keep trying, Randy.


Trying for what?


I get the impression you're trying to subtly (or not so subtly) sway folks away from the B guns to the Remington camp?

The photos of the AL391 as a "single shot" or the pages of letters between a Benelli buyer and Benelli customer service over in the V3 2019 thread...

But don't mind me; I'm just poking fun besides being a bit of a conspiracy theorist! :wink:

I have a bunch of Berettas, but my next shotgun is very likely to be a V3. I live in upstate NY and I always have some underlying guilt about having never owned a Remington.

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 Post subject: Re: Gas system and lubrication question
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:00 pm 
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I have a bunch of Berettas.


So do I.



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