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 Post subject: Beretta 391 longevity...
PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:24 pm 
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Last year, I sent my Tekyns sporter to Coles for an overhaul.....Next week, I plan to send my Urika 2, Sporter.... They can continue to replace springs and pins that normally fail... should I ever consider going to an A400, assuming I can have this maintenance done annually on my 391s.....?

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 391 longevity...
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:04 am 
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No reason as long as the parts supply holds out but why replace parts annually if they aren't broken. In 15 years of use the only parts that have needed replacing on my 391 have been a connecting rod, a recoil spring and a cocking handle. Everything else is original.


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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 391 longevity...
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:27 am 
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I keep a supply of recoil springs,hammer springs, firing pin springs,magazine springs, trigger pin, extra old piston, breech bolt with pin, firing pin and connecting rod. I plan on keeping the gun forever. The A400 (I have a 20 gauge) has lots more plastic than the 391.


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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 391 longevity...
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:28 am 
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PJR wrote:
No reason as long as the parts supply holds out but why replace parts annually if they aren't broken. In 15 years of use the only parts that have needed replacing on my 391 have been a connecting rod, a recoil spring and a cocking handle. Everything else is original.


I agree. No need to replace parts that are working just fine. If the OP wants to be prepared in case of parts breakage, he could just buy the parts that might break and keep them on hand in case they're needed. The 390 and 391 are very durable guns and I can see no needs for replacing parts every year unless a person is shooting 30,000 rounds per year through the gun. The only exception I can think of is replacing the recoil spring every 20 to 30,000 rounds of target loads.

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 391 longevity...
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:32 am 
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If you plan on keeping the gun forever, I would have the usual wear and tear parts on hand. Springs and pins are cheap insurance.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:57 pm 
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Cool! Thanks,guys!

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 391 longevity...
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:32 pm 
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agree with the above, some guys though say you have to replace springs after 5,000 rounds etc, just rubbish in my opinion, there are plenty of guys here who have sent alot of shells through their 391's and A400's A300's 303's 390's etc. Zero reason to replace parts unless they break, and you just don't see that alot here.

I've got over 25,000 rounds through my A400 xcel, one spring was replace only because I lost it, that's it............if it's ejecting shells at a weak rate or not sending them as far as they used too it's cause the gas chamber is starting to carbon up not because of weak springs etc.

This is the same forum though that drove the Beretta 692 right into a "discontinue status" from Beretta because one batch earlier on had a slight problem, and many of them didn't have a problem at all.

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 391 longevity...
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:57 am 
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If you consider a gun coming apart in 2 pieces in your hands a slight problem, I would hate to see what you call a serious problem. :roll:
https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewto ... 7&t=447159
https://www.trapshooters.com/threads/69 ... ng.331649/


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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 391 longevity...
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lt0026 wrote:
If you consider a gun coming apart in 2 pieces in your hands a slight problem, I would hate to see what you call a serious problem. :roll:
https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewto ... 7&t=447159
https://www.trapshooters.com/threads/69 ... ng.331649/


threads and dates are from 2016...........also Beretta was REACTIVE and changed the design instantly, also there are more stories out there of 692's going the distance vs those that aren't.

Everyone threw this gun under the bus over one small isolated problem, yet then everyone praises how great a browning 725 is, even though they eat firing pins like tic tacs, and there are currently several for sale on the boards right now, one that even is stated as "selling because it can't fire certain loads reliably"

I get that mistakes happen, but I will defend this gun tooth and nail because it's a shame that it was attacked with such criticism and internet hyper bole when as mentioned there are more people out there with thousands upon thousands of rounds through theirs's with not a single problem, and I happen to be one of them.

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The 690/692 have a stigma attached to them. I know one Beretta dealer who refused to carry them or take orders for them. Trade in value is terrible.


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lt0026 wrote:
The 690/692 have a stigma attached to them. I know one Beretta dealer who refused to carry them or take orders for them. Trade in value is terrible.


yeah they are great guns for the money, and they will serve you well......thus making them great bargains for those that know what they are looking for.

My other buddy has a 690 black and he has over 10,000 rounds through it this year alone, not a single problem.

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 391 longevity...
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The biggest point of wear on 391 / Teknys are the ejection port and the inside of the receiver by the cut off lever.


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58PERAZZI wrote:
The biggest point of wear on 391 / Teknys are the ejection port and the inside of the receiver by the cut off lever.



100% correct, the springs and everything else internally in that gun are world class, and you can shoot that thing for your entire life and probably never wear out any springs. I had a 391 Teknys Gold Sporting that had north of 80,000 when I bought it, not a single spring was ever replaced, and when I traded it into Gander Mountain Gun World, I got more then what I paid for it.

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 391 longevity...
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When you use steel based shells the ejection port will show wear. The part most likely to break is the connecting rod and breach bolt slide.




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