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 Post subject: Beretta 694 balance how stock or barrel weights
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:06 pm 
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I had Tronspace make / install a adjustable comb and butt plate on my Beretta 694 .
( yes he did a good job {hs# )

It’s now a tad stock heavy . Do I put in a lighter weight in stock or Beretta magnetic weights in barrel forearm . I would think forearm but $155 the stock weight kit is only $40
It won’t take much to balance.



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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 694 balance how stock or barrel weights
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:16 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 694 balance how stock or barrel weights
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:42 pm 
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Ok I did .
Anyone else on the magnetic weights

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 694 balance how stock or barrel weights
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:22 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 694 balance how stock or barrel weights
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:46 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 694 balance how stock or barrel weights
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:53 am 
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skar wrote:
I had Tronspace make / install a adjustable comb and butt plate on my Beretta 694 .
( yes he did a good job {hs# )

It’s now a tad stock heavy . Do I put in a lighter weight in stock or Beretta magnetic weights in barrel forearm . I would think forearm but $155 the stock weight kit is only $40
It won’t take much to balance.


Does this make a difference in your shooting?

Why do you think you need to put weights in the barrels just because the gun may balance slightly behind the hinge pin?


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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 694 balance how stock or barrel weights
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:09 am 
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Barrel heavy = slow swing
Barrel light = faster swing but I whippy
I like neutral swing

More weight = Les recoil

magnetic weights Are easy to
Add or subtract

But yes $$$


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht_Dp2DjeYU


See Video above . They balance from factory

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 694 balance how stock or barrel weights
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:21 am 
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skar wrote:
Barrel Harvey = slow swing
Barrel light = faster swing but I yippie

I like neutral swing

More weight = Les recoil

magnetic weights Are easy to
Add or subtract

But yes $$$


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht_Dp2DjeYU


See Video above . They balance from factory


I shoot a gun with a recoil reducer. It is just a little butt heavy. I thought I needed to fool around with weights, etc., but they are a pain and I just simply got used to shooting the gun.

It makes no difference if the gun balances just slightly behind or in front of the hinge pin. You'll get used to it either way.

If you want to go hanging a bunch of stuff off your barrel by all means go ahead. I'm just saying that it won't affect much of anything when you call pull.


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skar wrote:
I had Tronspace make / install a adjustable comb and butt plate on my Beretta 694 .
( yes he did a good job {hs# )

It’s now a tad stock heavy . Do I put in a lighter weight in stock or Beretta magnetic weights in barrel forearm . I would think forearm but $155 the stock weight kit is only $40
It won’t take much to balance.


For a easy/cheap way is get some lead tape and put some inside the forearm and play with adding/ subtracting till you find what you like.

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 694 balance how stock or barrel weights
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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 694 balance how stock or barrel weights
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Most people that want barrel weights under the forend want the most weight they can get.

With the Beretta weights you get 3.17466oz for $150+, with my weights you get 3.5-4.5oz (depending on length) for $65...

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 694 balance how stock or barrel weights
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:24 pm 
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Most people that want barrel weights under the forend want the most weight they can get.

With the Beretta weights you get 3.17466oz for $150+, with my weights you get 3.5-4.5oz (depending on length) for $65...


I've heard this logic but, I mean, Beretta went to all the trouble of making beautiful, lightweight barrels with factory thinwall, superlight chokes, etc. They even have "carbon fiber" ribs for even more weight savings.

Then we go and hang lead on them. Why not just buy a Browning or Krieghoff with bulged factory chokes and way thicker barrel walls if we want a heavyweight barrel set?

:?: :!:


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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 694 balance how stock or barrel weights
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:31 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 694 balance how stock or barrel weights
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:33 pm 
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Skeet_Man wrote:
Most people that want barrel weights under the forend want the most weight they can get.

With the Beretta weights you get 3.17466oz for $150+, with my weights you get 3.5-4.5oz (depending on length) for $65...


I was hinting you should make them .

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 694 balance how stock or barrel weights
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:37 pm 
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skar wrote:
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What do those 100 straight skeet guys do when then put tubes in their guns? They balance 6 miles ahead of the hinge pin.

Do they fret and put a pound of lead in the stock?


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skar wrote:
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What do those 100 straight skeet guys do when then put tubes in their guns? They balance 6 miles ahead of the hinge pin.

Do they fret and put a pound of lead in the stock?


They balance the gun with the tubes. Then they use a clamp on barrel weight or have a 2nd set of 12ga barrels when they shoot 12ga. Most competition american skeet guns will way somewhere near the hinge pin either way.

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 694 balance how stock or barrel weights
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:08 pm 
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paracord wrote:
Skeet_Man wrote:
Most people that want barrel weights under the forend want the most weight they can get.

With the Beretta weights you get 3.17466oz for $150+, with my weights you get 3.5-4.5oz (depending on length) for $65...


I've heard this logic but, I mean, Beretta went to all the trouble of making beautiful, lightweight barrels with factory thinwall, superlight chokes, etc. They even have "carbon fiber" ribs for even more weight savings.

Then we go and hang lead on them. Why not just buy a Browning or Krieghoff with bulged factory chokes and way thicker barrel walls if we want a heavyweight barrel set?

:?: :!:


In my opinion, Beretta made their barrels too light for most people. A majority of the weights I make are for Optima and later Beretta barrels.

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 694 balance how stock or barrel weights
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:10 pm 
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skar wrote:
Skeet_Man wrote:
Most people that want barrel weights under the forend want the most weight they can get.

With the Beretta weights you get 3.17466oz for $150+, with my weights you get 3.5-4.5oz (depending on length) for $65...


I was hinting you should make them .


Incredibly high startup cost and incredibly small market.

Also, are you sure these fit the 694? Beretta only lists them for the DT11 and 692 (and possibly even more specifically only the "Black" carbon fiber models), and the mid ribs are specifically designed to accommodate them, notice the oval inlet in the mid rib. I don't think these are going to fit your gun unless you have those inlets.

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Then again, looking at the way Beretta made the mid-rib on the b-fast guns, you're probably better of going with their system instead of mine anyways.

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 694 balance how stock or barrel weights
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:34 pm 
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Skeet_Man wrote:
paracord wrote:
skar wrote:
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What do those 100 straight skeet guys do when then put tubes in their guns? They balance 6 miles ahead of the hinge pin.

Do they fret and put a pound of lead in the stock?


They balance the gun with the tubes. Then they use a clamp on barrel weight or have a 2nd set of 12ga barrels when they shoot 12ga. Most competition american skeet guns will way somewhere near the hinge pin either way.


Tubed guns balance way ahead of the hinge pin.

They add weight so the light 12 ga barrels also balance way off the pin like the tubes or they just shoot 20 ga in the 12 ga events.




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