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 Post subject: 30" vs 32" SP1 sporting 12ga
PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 10:11 am 
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I pulled the trigger on a 30" SP1 Sporting since I've shot a very whippy 24" 1301 with decent success for a while, also because I'm not a big guy (5' 8"). After buying, I read a bit more about how light the SP1 barrels are, and that the 32" is really the way to go. I also don't have anywhere local to try them both out. I'm not concerned about taking a hit on selling the 30" because it's really inconsequential when put in perspective of the costs of ammo, cart, clays, etc.

Thoughts on selling the 30" for a 32"? Also, fwiw, the gun will use flush chokes since I already have many Beretta OCHP chokes for my 1301. I figure this also gives an edge to the 32".

edit: Oh, and use case is roughly 85% clays, 10% trap, 5% skeet.




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 Post subject: Re: 30" vs 32" SP1 sporting 12ga
PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 10:46 am 
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Shoot what you have for a bit and see how well it works for you; then borrow a 32 to see how that works for you and decide based on what works for you, nor foe anyone else.

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 Post subject: Re: 30" vs 32" SP1 sporting 12ga
PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 11:23 am 
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oneounceload wrote:
Shoot what you have for a bit and see how well it works for you; then borrow a 32 to see how that works for you and decide based on what works for you, nor foe anyone else.


I don't really want to put any rounds through the 30" to preserve its resale value in case I decide to sell it, and I don't have anyone to borrow a 32" from. I may be able to rent one, but I'm not sure.


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 Post subject: Re: 30" vs 32" SP1 sporting 12ga
PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 11:41 am 
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SP1's are too light period. Regardless of barrel length.

I think it would be a mistake to take a hit on your current gun just to get an extra 2" on the barrel. Shoot what you've got and when you have the chance to demo a 694 see how that feels.


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 Post subject: Re: 30" vs 32" SP1 sporting 12ga
PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 12:17 pm 
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birdhunter39 wrote:
SP1's are too light period. Regardless of barrel length.

I think it would be a mistake to take a hit on your current gun just to get an extra 2" on the barrel. Shoot what you've got and when you have the chance to demo a 694 see how that feels.


I take your point, but I'm much too casual for a $4,000 gun. I don't get to shoot much as I'm in college. When I feel I shoot enough to outgrow the SP1, I'll probably jump right to a Kriegoff.


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 Post subject: Re: 30" vs 32" SP1 sporting 12ga
PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 12:30 pm 
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Am 5'8, use 32" sp1. Brother uses 30" sp1.

32 "points" a bit more ... that's about it
balance + handling is very similar / same

I'd suggest trying a couple rounds on the 32 before deciding. If you like the extra pointing, definitely upgrade. If you are expecting a magical targeting system, you'll be disappointed.

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 Post subject: Re: 30" vs 32" SP1 sporting 12ga
PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 1:12 pm 
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Beretta130124 wrote:
birdhunter39 wrote:
SP1's are too light period. Regardless of barrel length.

I think it would be a mistake to take a hit on your current gun just to get an extra 2" on the barrel. Shoot what you've got and when you have the chance to demo a 694 see how that feels.


I take your point, but I'm much too casual for a $4,000 gun. I don't get to shoot much as I'm in college. When I feel I shoot enough to outgrow the SP1, I'll probably jump right to a Kriegoff.


And for exactly that reason it would be a waste to trade into a 32.


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 Post subject: Re: 30" vs 32" SP1 sporting 12ga
PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 3:09 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: 30" vs 32" SP1 sporting 12ga
PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 3:36 pm 
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if you want to get the feel of what 32's might feel like, buy some pure gold extended chokes, they have a very long profile, also 32's will swing better and be more stable feeling, however all shotguns handle differently for different people. What swings great for one guy might be someone elses worst case handling nightmare.

I know a few shooters that bought 30 inch guns only to upgrade into 32's later or shortly after, the good thing about a SP1 is barrel availability, you might be able to score some used 32's for cheap and then get them fitted. Or if you can find someone who might be willing to trade their 32 inch barrel for your 30.

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 Post subject: Re: 30" vs 32" SP1 sporting 12ga
PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2021 7:25 pm 
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You won’t notice much difference with 32s although they will have MUCH better resale value. I’d say 90% of O/Us today are 32”, regardless of the size of the shooter.

You’ll get used to whatever you have. You’re better off putting the hit you’d take toward ammo.


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 Post subject: Re: 30" vs 32" SP1 sporting 12ga
PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2021 7:44 pm 
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The 32" will shoot 5% closer to the point of aim with the same sighting error. If you can swing the barrels there seems to be no downside. I am old and feeble and I went with the 30" barrels. It helps me, I think, to get the gun to the target. I seem to have to play "catch up" with the gun a lot.


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 Post subject: Re: 30" vs 32" SP1 sporting 12ga
PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2021 1:26 pm 
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Well, turns out the shipper recalled the 30" for whatever reason so now I'm able to get the 32" instead with no financial hit :) I'll sleep a little easier at night.


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 Post subject: Re: 30" vs 32" SP1 sporting 12ga
PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2021 8:10 pm 
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Beretta130124 wrote:
I take your point, but I'm much too casual for a $4,000 gun. I don't get to shoot much as I'm in college. When I feel I shoot enough to outgrow the SP1, I'll probably jump right to a Kriegoff.


My neighbor said he couldn't afford a $4,000 Guerini. I pointed at his $48K truck in his driveway and said "BS". He went and bought the CG the next weekend.


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 Post subject: Re: 30" vs 32" SP1 sporting 12ga
PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 12:59 am 
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IMO only exceptional shooters would notice the difference between 30 and 32 inch barrels when shooting. The simple truth is they are very close in balance and swing weight. When you consider the hit you'll take on value selling your current 30 inch 686 I just don't see any real benefit to going to 32 inches.


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 Post subject: Re: 30" vs 32" SP1 sporting 12ga
PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:17 pm 
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scooter123 wrote:
IMO only exceptional shooters would notice the difference between 30 and 32 inch barrels when shooting. The simple truth is they are very close in balance and swing weight. When you consider the hit you'll take on value selling your current 30 inch 686 I just don't see any real benefit to going to 32 inches.


that's not true, I notice the difference between the two barrel lengths, in sight picture number one and in handling number two, and I'm far from being an "exceptional" shooter

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 Post subject: Re: 30" vs 32" SP1 sporting 12ga
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:57 am 
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40Shotguns wrote:
Beretta130124 wrote:
I take your point, but I'm much too casual for a $4,000 gun. I don't get to shoot much as I'm in college. When I feel I shoot enough to outgrow the SP1, I'll probably jump right to a Kriegoff.


My neighbor said he couldn't afford a $4,000 Guerini. I pointed at his $48K truck in his driveway and said "BS". He went and bought the CG the next weekend.

Maybe he couldn't afford the $48k truck either. :D
It's amazing how many folks will pay crazy interest rates for 5-7 years on a depreciating item like a vehicle.


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 Post subject: Re: 30" vs 32" SP1 sporting 12ga
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:31 pm 
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mpolans wrote:
40Shotguns wrote:
Beretta130124 wrote:
I take your point, but I'm much too casual for a $4,000 gun. I don't get to shoot much as I'm in college. When I feel I shoot enough to outgrow the SP1, I'll probably jump right to a Kriegoff.


My neighbor said he couldn't afford a $4,000 Guerini. I pointed at his $48K truck in his driveway and said "BS". He went and bought the CG the next weekend.

Maybe he couldn't afford the $48k truck either. :D
It's amazing how many folks will pay crazy interest rates for 5-7 years on a depreciating item like a vehicle.


Maybe not. Or.....he could be the millionaire next door......


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 Post subject: Re: 30" vs 32" SP1 sporting 12ga
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:21 pm 
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gdub41 wrote:
scooter123 wrote:
IMO only exceptional shooters would notice the difference between 30 and 32 inch barrels when shooting. The simple truth is they are very close in balance and swing weight. When you consider the hit you'll take on value selling your current 30 inch 686 I just don't see any real benefit to going to 32 inches.


that's not true, I notice the difference between the two barrel lengths, in sight picture number one and in handling number two, and I'm far from being an "exceptional" shooter


I'm honestly curious here.
When we shoot we focus on the target right?, keeping the gun in soft peripheral focus.
Do you feel that while shooting you can tell the difference in barrel length between 30 and 32 inches in your peripheral focus?

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 Post subject: Re: 30" vs 32" SP1 sporting 12ga
PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:20 am 
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I have 30" 686 sporting - very good overall. you can add extended chokes and what I have done is add barrel weight [ graco system / Briley ] . I tweaked that gun to the max added mercury recoil in stock as well . It works well for Skeet & SC's [ don't shoot trap ]

I added a 694 to collection it's 32" & more important for me has an adjustable comb . don't need barrel weights for this so far - great gun but I could use the 686 and be happy

Money's an issue for you ? stick with 30 " and play with chokes / barrel weights - It will change handling characteristics - tweak it to your preference


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 Post subject: Re: 30" vs 32" SP1 sporting 12ga
PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:57 am 
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Beretta130124 wrote:

I don't really want to put any rounds through the 30" to preserve its resale value in case I decide to sell it . . .


Shooting a few hundred or even a few thousand rounds through it is not going to affect value. You took the depreciation hit the minute you walked out the gun shop with it. It is no longer a “new” gun. Nobody is going to pay full retail to a private seller for a second-hand gun. You might as well get some enjoyment for the couple hundred dollars you’ll give up.




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