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 Post subject: info on a 1975 ithaca model 38 12ga pump
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:13 pm 
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have one of the ithaca pump shotguns that sereal number starts with 38, have read that they are really model 37's but were made only for 6 months in 1975 with a couple of changes and called model 38, my question is, are the barrels marked model 38 or did they just continue using model 37 barrels on them, any help is appreciated, thanks




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 Post subject: Re: info on a 1975 ithaca model 38 12ga pump
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:28 am 
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I have one in 20 gauge. The only thing I can see different is the shell stops. They had some kind of new, improved shell stops that evidently didn't work all that well. I just checked mine and the barrel says Model 37.


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 Post subject: Re: info on a 1975 ithaca model 38 12ga pump
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:38 am 
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Mine says Model 37 but there is no way to know if the barrel is original to the shotgun. Here are pictures :
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 Post subject: Re: info on a 1975 ithaca model 38 12ga pump
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:20 pm 
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ithacaskbfan wrote:
Mine says Model 37 but there is no way to know if the barrel is original to the shotgun. Here are pictures :
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thank you, thats the same way mine is, sereal number starts with 38 and the barrel says model 37
was just curious if thats the way they were made, with model 37 marked barrels, have looked for years and have never seen a barrel marked model 38


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 Post subject: Re: info on a 1975 ithaca model 38 12ga pump
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:03 pm 
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The "model 38" was never an official designation. The company still considered and advertised it as a model 37.

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 Post subject: Re: info on a 1975 ithaca model 38 12ga pump
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:17 am 
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The serial numbers started 381****** was the only designation. Shell stops & forend tube were different. The forend tube actually cammed the spring shell stop.
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 Post subject: Re: info on a 1975 ithaca model 38 12ga pump
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:30 pm 
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I am not trying to be smart a$$ here; but that buttstock fits that receiver with a whole lot of wood "proud" above the metal. Is that normal for Model 37s from that era because I have not noticed it in the past on the ones I have handled?


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 Post subject: Re: info on a 1975 ithaca model 38 12ga pump
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:20 pm 
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Yes, cosmetic quality suffered during this era. Ithaca was having a hard time competing with the 870 Express, Mossberg 500, the new Winchester 1200. In short the competition's designs where cheaper to produce so Ithaca attempted to "cut corners" where ever possible to remain at the same price point.

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 Post subject: Re: info on a 1975 ithaca model 38 12ga pump
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:18 pm 
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1977cutcher wrote:
Yes, cosmetic quality suffered during this era. Ithaca was having a hard time competing with the 870 Express, Mossberg 500, the new Winchester 1200. In short the competition's designs where cheaper to produce so Ithaca attempted to "cut corners" where ever possible to remain at the same price point.


Yep! Read that same thing many times. My gun shop observations have confirmed that status for 37's made in that period.

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 Post subject: Re: info on a 1975 ithaca model 38 12ga pump
PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:17 am 
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oyeme wrote:
I am not trying to be smart a$$ here; but that buttstock fits that receiver with a whole lot of wood "proud" above the metal. Is that normal for Model 37s from that era because I have not noticed it in the past on the ones I have handled?

The 38 that I have pictured here is the ugliest 37 in my collection. But it is an unmolested 37/38 so it fills a niche. I agree with others stating that this era was not Ithaca’s best.




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