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 Post subject: Model 12 16 ga sn 5xxxxx with a vent rib?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:26 pm 
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I picked this up $340.00, it's a take down version with a vent rib the goes over the receiver. Unfortunately it has a poly choke and a poorly fitted recoil pad. Metal as 95%. Is it a factory rib or aftermarket? Wood is good as well.



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 Post subject: Re: Model 12 16 ga sn 5xxxxx with a vent rib?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:19 pm 
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Winchester didn't offer a vent rib on the smallbore Model 12s until the 1954 introduction of the Winchester Special Ventilated Rib (essentially a Simmons rib) --

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 Post subject: Re: Model 12 16 ga sn 5xxxxx with a vent rib?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:07 pm 
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Sn # dates it too 1929.. interesting no 16 gauge in that ad?

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 Post subject: Re: Model 12 16 ga sn 5xxxxx with a vent rib?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:36 am 
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By the time the Winchester Special Ventilated Rib was introduced, the 16-gauge Model 12 Skeet Gun had been dropped. Last appearing in the 1950 catalogs. The Winchester Special Ventilated Rib was only offered as an extra cost option on the Model 12 Field Gun in 1954 and 55, but never was a catalog symbol offering.

Bottom line, your rib is after market. Most likely by Simmons, but could be by Moneymaker or some other. The gun would have been reblued after the rib installation. Show us some pictures.


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 Post subject: Re: Model 12 16 ga sn 5xxxxx with a vent rib?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:40 pm 
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https://i.imgur.com/wZvIrmh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/0v9dDin.jpg

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 Post subject: Re: Model 12 16 ga sn 5xxxxx with a vent rib?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:49 pm 
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More pics.

https://i.imgur.com/0v9dDin.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/45jDo5L.jpg

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 Post subject: Re: Model 12 16 ga sn 5xxxxx with a vent rib?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:13 am 
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Appears to be a Herters rib .


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 Post subject: Re: Model 12 16 ga sn 5xxxxx with a vent rib?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:51 pm 
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Ah probably the poly choke was installed at that time.

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 Post subject: Re: Model 12 16 ga sn 5xxxxx with a vent rib?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:52 pm 
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I probably over paid for it then but it's in nice shape..

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 Post subject: Re: Model 12 16 ga sn 5xxxxx with a vent rib?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:28 pm 
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Did you want it ?
Do you like it ?
Do you shoot it well ?

If the answers to the above are "yes" it does not matter what you paid for it .


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 Post subject: Re: Model 12 16 ga sn 5xxxxx with a vent rib?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:10 pm 
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Oldman1949 wrote:
Did you want it ?
Do you like it ?
Do you shoot it well ?

If the answers to the above are "yes" it does not matter what you paid for it .


Have shot it yet no, but the other two are a yes.. I like your thinking. Funny my daughter was with me at the gun show. I picked up a number of 20 and 16 gauges s x s, pumps, auto loaders etc, a very nice model 37 Ithaca my daughter was like "why not" my response it dint sing to me..I went back and looked at this one a second time he had $395.00 on it we haggled a little but I thought $340.00 was fair. I know it has a poly choke and a aftermarket rib but the stock is nice and the blue job is 90-95%. I wanted a shooter not a safe queen..I wanted a s x s but with only $400.00 to work with I felt this was a reasonable option, it's tight the take down option is solid, it needs a new recoil pad but that's peanuts.

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 Post subject: Re: Model 12 16 ga sn 5xxxxx with a vent rib?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:20 am 
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Nice gun. Great field gun. Good price. Lighter and faster handling than any 16 gauge SxS you are likely to find. What is not to like? If you did not like the poly choke you would have passed, right? Take it out and shoot it and let us know.


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 Post subject: Re: Model 12 16 ga sn 5xxxxx with a vent rib?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:08 pm 
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The Poly choke doesn't bother me my dad had one on his A5 with the compensator just like it. Trust me he hit what he aimed at..I wonder if its a Poly choke Rib, someone on this tread said Herters but after some research there are two other rib makes as well..

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 Post subject: Re: Model 12 16 ga sn 5xxxxx with a vent rib?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:18 pm 
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No , it's not a poly choke rib . They were glued on and had a "rib" that ran under the top rib so it could be glued onto the barrel .


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 Post subject: Re: Model 12 16 ga sn 5xxxxx with a vent rib?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:13 pm 
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Oldman1949 wrote:
No , it's not a poly choke rib . They were glued on and had a "rib" that ran under the top rib so it could be glued onto the barrel .

Ah thanks

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 Post subject: Re: Model 12 16 ga sn 5xxxxx with a vent rib?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:50 am 
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If it is a Simmons rib it will say so on the side of the rib. I do remember the Herters's adds for adding a polychoke and rib in the late 60's and early 70's. But I do not know what their installation looked like. I would suspect the gun, or at least the barrel, was blued when the choke and rib were added.


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 Post subject: Re: Model 12 16 ga sn 5xxxxx with a vent rib?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:43 pm 
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I have a similar gun and love it. I even put some fancy wood on it. It was my dads old bird gun and I have over $400 in the wood alone. I use it for sporting clays and do just as well with it as I do my Ceasar guerini.

Mine has a Simmons rib and polychoke. I did have a little problem with ejecting reloaded Herters shells, but no problem with remingtons. The Herters were just a hair longer.


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 Post subject: Re: Model 12 16 ga sn 5xxxxx with a vent rib?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:42 pm 
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Finally got to shoot some sporting clays yesterday with it hit 28 of 50 not great but also very rusty at a tough course IMO. The south Saint Paul trap club, no issues once I learned to rack it hard for the second shot...aroma therapy!,,, :D

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 Post subject: Re: Model 12 16 ga sn 5xxxxx with a vent rib?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:34 am 
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Love the rib, don't love polychokes.
If I found a 16 gauge Model 12 with a rib on a 28 inch barrel it would follow me home.


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 Post subject: Re: Model 12 16 ga sn 5xxxxx with a vent rib?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:42 am 
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I agree that polychokes are a whole lotta ugly, but what a great solution for variable chokes prior to choke tubes. They are even easier, no extra chokes to carry, no tools, just twist it. To me if you are buying an older gun as a shooter, it's a great add-on along with a Simmons rib. They make it a better, more versatile shooter. I have a shooter A5 with a Polychoke and love it for what it is, a great user.




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