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 Post subject: steel shot in a Japanese 101?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:23 pm 
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I have friend in Californiastan who occasionally gets invites to shoot quail on a private ranch. He has a Made in Japan, 101 fixed choke with IC/MOD and has been told it was made in 1976. He needs to use non-toxic shot. What does SGW members say?

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 Post subject: Re: steel shot in a Japanese 101?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:44 pm 
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It likely will be OK with small steel shot sizes for Quail, but no one can tell you for certain.
You're on your own with this one.
Of course, Bismuth is a premier choice.


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 Post subject: Re: steel shot in a Japanese 101?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:32 pm 
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Gunsite Guy wrote:
I have friend in Californiastan who occasionally gets invites to shoot quail on a private ranch. He has a Made in Japan, 101 fixed choke with IC/MOD and has been told it was made in 1976. He needs to use non-toxic shot. What does SGW members say?

Thanks in advance,

s/f Steve


Bad idea. It is all at his own risk: that's what bismuth is for.

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 Post subject: Re: steel shot in a Japanese 101?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:39 pm 
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The good news is, your friend has an excuse to buy a new gun! Those bismuth shells are expensive.

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 Post subject: Re: steel shot in a Japanese 101?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:20 pm 
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The price of a few boxes of Bismuth loads won't look that big when fuel, hotels and restaurant meals are added up for a hunt.
Just one old guy's opinion.


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 Post subject: Re: steel shot in a Japanese 101?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:04 am 
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That was in jest. A way to rationalize a new gun purchase should never be overlooked though.

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 Post subject: Re: steel shot in a Japanese 101?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:34 am 
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RandyWakeman wrote:
Gunsite Guy wrote:
I have friend in Californiastan who occasionally gets invites to shoot quail on a private ranch. He has a Made in Japan, 101 fixed choke with IC/MOD and has been told it was made in 1976. He needs to use non-toxic shot. What does SGW members say?

Thanks in advance,

s/f Steve


Bad idea. It is all at his own risk: that's what bismuth is for.


I agree with Randy. It's not worth the risk. Only Japanese 101s with factory original Winchoke are suitable for steel shot.


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 Post subject: Re: steel shot in a Japanese 101?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:44 pm 
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Would a bismuth load be more effective than a steel load? Particularly in a 20 gauge?

I also have a 101 but have not had to use no tox yet where I hunt.

Really nice field gun.

I bought a 20 gauge Citori also but I just did not want to part with a beat up 101 for what they bring in todays market.


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 Post subject: Re: steel shot in a Japanese 101?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:31 am 
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Bill M. wrote:
Would a bismuth load be more effective than a steel load? Particularly in a 20 gauge?

I also have a 101 but have not had to use no tox yet where I hunt.

Really nice field gun.

I bought a 20 gauge Citori also but I just did not want to part with a beat up 101 for what they bring in todays market.


Yes, especially in a 20 ga.




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