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 Post subject: Thinking of another Model 12 for waterfowl work
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:44 am 
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Hi all,

As waterfowl season is approaching, I am thinking about picking up another model 12 to do some waterfowl work with.

All of my duck hunting is either from a blind or pass shooting. There is usually one hunt a year where we hunt from ground blinds.

I currently have a 12 ga with a solid rib and modified choke. It is a late 40's gun in original condition. It has about 75% of the bluing left. I have and will continue to use it especially from the blind, but I would like a gun with a full choke and a recoil pad.

I've looked at the heavy duck guns and I think they would be good if I can find one at a decent price.

Also, I'm running across a few nickel steel guns. Any reason to avoid them for duck hunting?

They guns will shoot bismuth religiously. I won't attempt to use steel in them.




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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of another Model 12 for waterfowl work
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:57 am 
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This one has caught my eye.

Seems to be in great shape.

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns- ... =101540298


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of another Model 12 for waterfowl work
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:58 am 
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Barrel says 1912 and nickel steel. Looks to have been refinished. I don't believe the stock is correct for that gun either from a collector stand point, but looks like it would be a great shooter.


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of another Model 12 for waterfowl work
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:11 am 
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I also came across this one. I know a lot is not correct about this one from a collectors stand point, but it calling my name for some reason....

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881880067


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of another Model 12 for waterfowl work
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:14 am 
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Hell yes.


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of another Model 12 for waterfowl work
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:16 am 
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Found a heavy duck, is this truly a deluxe?

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns- ... =101513648

Good looking gun for sure.


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of another Model 12 for waterfowl work
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:18 am 
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You must be a big fan of the Model 12. Nothing wrong with sticking to what you like or adding to the bunch. Go for it! Any of them.

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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of another Model 12 for waterfowl work
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:36 am 
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EricB wrote:
You must be a big fan of the Model 12. Nothing wrong with sticking to what you like or adding to the bunch. Go for it! Any of them.


I'm a Winchester fan for sure. My grandad was. He owned a model 12 16 ga that is now mine.

I enjoy shooting them for sure. My favorite is my new to me SX1, but I like a pump for duck hunting. I had a bad experience with a gas semi previously and I have decided to leave most of my hunting up to pumps.

When it comes to clay games though, I don't see my SX1 every being replaced.


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of another Model 12 for waterfowl work
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:02 am 
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I've actually come across some SX1's that are priced better than the Model 12's I'm finding.... Decisions, decisions....


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of another Model 12 for waterfowl work
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:20 pm 
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Clark,

I love Model 12's for waterfowl hunting.
I purchased a M12 Heavy Duck because I wanted the extra weight and 3" capability. The HD barrel is heavier with more wall thickness and I sent it to Briley and had them install their VX thinwalls. Now I can now shoot any type of shot, even steel.
The original butt stocks also have lead in them to reduce recoil. Also they are shorter to to use with a lot of cold weather clothing. The original pads are as hard as a brick now and should have a new better replacement.

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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of another Model 12 for waterfowl work
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:37 pm 
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I had one (Heavy Duck field grade) that was in 99% original condition, no rib, and it had an original 32” barrel. Don’t know if the consignee still has it or not

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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of another Model 12 for waterfowl work
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:00 pm 
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Trouble is I want one of them all.... LOL

I think I am going to pick up a nice field condition SX1 with a modified barrel. I want a spare SX1 anyhow. It is priced at half of what I would pay to get a nice Model 12 HD.

That will give me another barrel to the arsenal of SX1's.

I'll circle back to the model 12's and try to round out that collection too. As far as I'm concerned, I hope to never need another shotgun other than a model 12 or SX1.


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of another Model 12 for waterfowl work
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:31 pm 
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I ended up with another SX1... These things multiply....

I think I did ok, here is the link to it on Gunbroker.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/882509312

I decided that a MOD choke will be fine. I seem to shoot the SX1 better due to less recoil. This one will probably get a recoil pad too.

I decided it is a lot easier to change a choke on a SX1 than a model 12, I can find a full field barrel much easier I'm sure.


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of another Model 12 for waterfowl work
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:31 pm 
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What kind of shot are you using in the model 12's for waterfowl hunting?


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of another Model 12 for waterfowl work
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:24 pm 
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Bill M. wrote:
What kind of shot are you using in the model 12's for waterfowl hunting?


I bought up some kent bismuth when it first came out in the 10 rd boxes.

If I remember correctly it is 2 & 3/4" , 1 & 1/4 oz number 4's.

They did really well on decoying ducks when I did my part. I've still got around 100 shells of that left.

For my next bismuth purchase, I think I'm going to go with Boss Shotshells. They are a couple more options in the 2 & 3/4" shells when it comes to payloads.




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