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 Post subject: Hydra-Coil system- no shock- options?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:34 am 
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I picked up a brown Hydra Coil stock and forearm for the model 12 12g.

However, upon opening it up, the rear shock was both broken and missing chunks. I am good at fixing things, but this would have required a completely new shock unit to fix- due to the white plastic shock being so severely broken and having other chunks seemly cut off.

So- I have, in a box, everything but the shock.

Is there ANYONE that has these shocks for sale?

Part of me would like to try this system out some day. Another part says that the plastic feels wrong to me, and stick to wood. Add lead if I want more recoil reduction.

So- does anyone have any tips?



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 Post subject: Re: Hydra-Coil system- no shock- options?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:50 am 
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Google may be your best bet in finding one but at the age of the systems themselves it’s probably only a temp fix until it fails again.

I have seen a few converted to springs vs the oil or air pistons.


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 Post subject: Re: Hydra-Coil system- no shock- options?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:57 am 
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If your cylinder is beyond being able to do what was done here, you're completely SOL. No replacements have been available in nearly 3/4 of a century:

https://www.trapshooters.com/threads/19 ... nt.835553/

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 Post subject: Re: Hydra-Coil system- no shock- options?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:26 pm 
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That stock was advertised as an option in the 1968 catalogue, any later than that, I have no idea. It’s a very long shot, but you might try nulineguns.com

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 Post subject: Re: Hydra-Coil system- no shock- options?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:43 pm 
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Get ahold of Mike at G Squared stocks. I think he is up in Idaho now.
He converts standard stocks to hydrocoil units and has his own air shocks.
Probably he will have to do some adapting to convert your stock.

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 Post subject: Re: Hydra-Coil system- no shock- options?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:32 pm 
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Mike Gregory at G2 does not work on hydracoil stocks and has no parts for them.

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 Post subject: Re: Hydra-Coil system- no shock- options?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:58 pm 
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Maybe these guys - http://www.dockwillergunsmiths.com/


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 Post subject: Re: Hydra-Coil system- no shock- options?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:42 pm 
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Skeet_Man wrote:
Mike Gregory at G2 does not work on hydracoil stocks and has no parts for them.


If Mike won't work on them then try Joe Shiozaki in Azuza, Ca.
He makes stocks very much like the Winchester hydrocoil unit and has air shocks.

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 Post subject: Re: Hydra-Coil system- no shock- options?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:45 pm 
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southdakbearfan wrote:


Jack ( Doc) Dockwiller passed on a couple of years ago.

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 Post subject: Re: Hydra-Coil system- no shock- options?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:43 am 
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searun wrote:
southdakbearfan wrote:


Jack ( Doc) Dockwiller passed on a couple of years ago.

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They still offer custom hydro coil work on the parent website the page is linked to. Trigger sport’s international


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 Post subject: Re: Hydra-Coil system- no shock- options?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:09 pm 
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southdakbearfan wrote:
searun wrote:
southdakbearfan wrote:


Jack ( Doc) Dockwiller passed on a couple of years ago.

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They still offer custom hydro coil work on the parent website the page is linked to. Trigger sport’s international


I believe that they did not make the hydrocoil stocks in house but sent an order to Doc or maybe Joe Shiozaki. Joe would be the only source now but he is getting up in age also.
I believe that Pacific Sporting Arms West has contact info for Joe.

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 Post subject: Re: Hydra-Coil system- no shock- options?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:31 pm 
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During what years or in what serial number range did Winchester install the Hydro-coil at the factory?I know they sold them for installation on existing guns also. How could you tell an original Hydro-coil gun?


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 Post subject: Re: Hydra-Coil system- no shock- options?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:36 pm 
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I believe Winchester started with the hydra-coil stocks on 3 Pin guns and plain barreled guns around SN 192XXXX or 1961, Madis states around SN 196XXXX or 1963. The white hydra-coil stocks had far less produced in comparison to the brown hydra-coil stocks.




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