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 Post subject: How Great is the Model 21
PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:21 pm 
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Shot a round of sporting with my M21 Trap today. It’s been awhile since I shot it and I’d forgotten how well it moves to a target. And the triggers! One of my buddies, who shoots a K80, said he’d never shot one before and asked to try a few pair with it. He was shocked how good the triggers are. Said they were at least as good as his Kreighoff triggers. He was very impressed. It’s amazing how a gun built 83 years ago, by hand, is comparable to top of the line modern shotguns. Guess that’s why we love them!




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 Post subject: Re: How Great is the Model 21
PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:28 pm 
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I have three of them. My choice for the best American double. Nothing even comes close to its solid strength. The only negative in my opinion is that it’s styling (looks) are very average

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 Post subject: Re: How Great is the Model 21
PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:03 pm 
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In all my years of shooting I've never shot a SXS. I would like a M 21 taking my SXS virginity.


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 Post subject: Re: How Great is the Model 21
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:31 am 
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Cool thread!

The 21 is certainly one of my favorites. I have been blessed to have the privilege of being the curator of one of the "Three Sisters" built for Jenkins Guns Inc. I have yet to shoot it. Maybe this week...


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 Post subject: Re: How Great is the Model 21
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:42 am 
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Over the last 25-30 years I bought, shot and subsequently sold eight of these great side by sides. Five twelves and three twenties. I won't bore you with details about them now, although when I have time I will post some pictures of a few. The absolute rarest one I ever put my hands on was about 15 years ago here in Tucson. It was a vent rib straight stocked 28 inch skeet mid -50's gun with the original build sheet.... in .410!
It was part of a two gun deal that I was offered. The other was a twenty which I eventually did buy. The guns belonged to the son of the of the fellow who bought them from the original owner sometime in the mid-70's. The seller brought the twenty over to my house, and we haggled a bit on price. Then he went out to his car and brought in the .410 which he hadn't mentioned up to that point. Both guns were original, unmolested, with build sheets and documented provenance. His price for both was $40K. He later sold the .410 to a dealer/collector in Colorado for $35K, or so he told me. I have pictures of the .410 that he took, which aren't all that good, but I'll try to post some when time allows.

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 Post subject: Re: How Great is the Model 21
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:57 pm 
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If you click on the pictures, they should enlarge....

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 Post subject: Re: How Great is the Model 21
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:14 pm 
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Kept three 20s. Sorta want a 12 ga trap gun for SC, they point exceptionally well.


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 Post subject: Re: How Great is the Model 21
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:16 pm 
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I hadn't owned one for 34 years and then in March 2016 a 1953 vintage 12-gauge Skeet Gun, configured just the way I'd always thought was right for me, came my way. Then two years later a 1941 vintage 16-gauge Skeet Gun joined the fold. First three rounds I shot with the 16-gauge were straights. It had taken me quite a while to shoot a straight with the 12-gauge!!

Certainly can't say I like them a bit better than any of my other doubles.


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 Post subject: Re: How Great is the Model 21
PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:42 pm 
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I love my mint model 21 skeet-20 gauge with 28" barrels and a beautiful piece of wood with a checkered butt. I got a factory letter and it letters to a tee. The gun was made in 1948. I would love to own a 20 gauge Grand American one day.


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 Post subject: Re: How Great is the Model 21
PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:16 pm 
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I only have one. A pre-war, around 1937, 12 ga, Full/Mod.

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 Post subject: Re: How Great is the Model 21
PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:56 am 
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This was one I found in Texas in 1998. The wood was what sold me on it.

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 Post subject: Re: How Great is the Model 21
PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:55 am 
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Very nice wood! I really like American walnut.


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 Post subject: Re: How Great is the Model 21
PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:58 pm 
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Beautiful engraving by John Kusmit.

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 Post subject: Re: How Great is the Model 21
PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:12 pm 
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I owned it for at least 10 years and never fired it because it was just too pretty to shoot. I finally relented and put a round through each barrel before I shipped it to the new owner, just to be sure about it. Of course, in hindsight, I wish I still had it, along with several others.

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 Post subject: Re: How Great is the Model 21
PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:23 pm 
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I have one engraved by John Kusmit. I have shot it because that is what it was made to do

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 Post subject: Re: How Great is the Model 21
PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:39 pm 
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True enough...as I said, I wish I still had it. Even a bad round would still feel good with a gun as beautiful as that.

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 Post subject: Re: How Great is the Model 21
PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:41 pm 
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casonet wrote:
I have one engraved by John Kusmit. I have shot it because that is what it was made to do


{hs# Exactly!


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 Post subject: Re: How Great is the Model 21
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:09 pm 
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'Nuff said.

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 Post subject: Re: How Great is the Model 21
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:40 pm 
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2lo8s wrote:
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'Nuff said.


Show off! {hs# Beautiful spread!


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 Post subject: Re: How Great is the Model 21
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:44 pm 
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Only one has the flat side receiver. That had to be filed flat at the factory: a lot of work, but it was considered necessary for the best engraving



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