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 Post subject: Re: 828U Sporting
PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:33 am 
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Looks like it just wasn’t closed all the way. I hated the field 828 as it was too light and recoil was ridiculous. I must say this one looks and seems like it should be better but at $5000 Canadian dollars plus tax, it’s too much money to take a chance on it
$$1600 more than a 725!



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 Post subject: Re: 828U Sporting
PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:48 am 
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I'm pretty convinced this is just an attempt to change the economics of o/u guns so Benelli can get in and realize a much higher profit. This gun just has to be way cheaper to make vs a traditional o/u. The stock and receiver require far less precision work to fit together. heck the stocks are probably leftover Montefeltro or Ethos units. I'm thinking way less machining work and time on these things.

Shameful they would introduce this at such a high price point. the design screams 'cheap!'.


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 Post subject: Re: 828U Sporting
PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:19 am 
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spoonbill82 wrote:
The Benelli faithful will have to drink a lot of the Benelli kool aid to stomach that price for the 828U Sporting. :lol:



And they will. It’s a Benelli!


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 Post subject: Re: 828U Sporting
PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:59 am 
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Not this fan. I've got a safe full of Benellis but that atrocity will never share space with them.


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 Post subject: Re: 828U Sporting
PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:47 am 
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you know I would almost be willing to try a sporting model out at $3500 Canadian dollars which is about $2600 USD. The stupidity is that the regular field gun is $4000 + Tax here (approx $3000USD).

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 Post subject: Re: 828U Sporting
PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:01 am 
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Dr Duk wrote:
spoonbill82 wrote:
The Benelli faithful will have to drink a lot of the Benelli kool aid to stomach that price for the 828U Sporting. :lol:



And they will. It’s a Benelli!


Sadly, you are correct.


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 Post subject: Re: 828U Sporting
PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:04 pm 
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I bought mine as a wet weather gun - it shares safe space with a custom built Perazzi. The 828U Sport is actually a seriously good piece of kit.....


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 Post subject: Re: 828U Sporting
PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:29 pm 
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And a footnote. The 828U Sport is a good gun with some weaknesses that seem unfixable.

1) Failure to strike the primer - just a click and that's it.
2) Failure to eject spent cases

The importer here in UK (GMK) seems unable to fix. Avoid the 828U Sport - it is, sadly, a lemon.


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 Post subject: Re: 828U Sporting
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:18 am 
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RSQ3John wrote:
And a footnote. The 828U Sport is a good gun with some weaknesses that seem unfixable.

1) Failure to strike the primer - just a click and that's it.

Must be the Benelli click in an O/U.

2) Failure to eject spent cases

The importer here in UK (GMK) seems unable to fix. Avoid the 828U Sport - it is, sadly, a lemon.


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 Post subject: Re: 828U Sporting
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:08 pm 
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Benelli should just stick to autos. I would never spend that much money on a Benelli O/U even if they were flawless when I can get a Browning that's proven and less money.


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 Post subject: Re: 828U Sporting
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:04 pm 
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RSQ3John wrote:
And a footnote. The 828U Sport is a good gun with some weaknesses that seem unfixable.

1) Failure to strike the primer - just a click and that's it.
2) Failure to eject spent cases

The importer here in UK (GMK) seems unable to fix. Avoid the 828U Sport - it is, sadly, a lemon.


I don't understand. It is first a seriously good "kit". Now it is also has a couple of un-fixable issues which make it a lemon. Color me confused. :?: :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: 828U Sporting
PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:30 am 
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oyeme wrote:
RSQ3John wrote:
And a footnote. The 828U Sport is a good gun with some weaknesses that seem unfixable.

1) Failure to strike the primer - just a click and that's it.
2) Failure to eject spent cases

The importer here in UK (GMK) seems unable to fix. Avoid the 828U Sport - it is, sadly, a lemon.


I don't understand. It is first a seriously good "kit". Now it is also has a couple of un-fixable issues which make it a lemon. Color me confused. :?: :roll:


It's a good gun, just doesn't always fire the shell and, if it does, doesn't always eject the empty. Other than that...
:lol: :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: 828U Sporting
PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:24 pm 
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lossking wrote:
oyeme wrote:
RSQ3John wrote:
And a footnote. The 828U Sport is a good gun with some weaknesses that seem unfixable.

1) Failure to strike the primer - just a click and that's it.
2) Failure to eject spent cases

The importer here in UK (GMK) seems unable to fix. Avoid the 828U Sport - it is, sadly, a lemon.


I don't understand. It is first a seriously good "kit". Now it is also has a couple of un-fixable issues which make it a lemon. Color me confused. :?: :roll:


It's a good gun, just doesn't always fire the shell and, if it does, doesn't always eject the empty. Other than that...
:lol: :lol: :lol:


Thank you for that clarification on what you consider a "good" gun. We will just have to disagree on the definition of a "good" gun. I consider any gun that is not 100% reliable with quality factory ammo as anything but "good". The fact that the failures are not fixable; makes it far from a "good" gun IMO. Maybe for a cheap gun that has been worn out but certainly not for what those 828U Sportings sell. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. Take care.


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 Post subject: Re: 828U Sporting
PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:55 pm 
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I tell you what confuses me. This Benelli is a product from a respected Italian shotgun company which is in turn owned by one of the most highly respected shotgun makers, Beretta.

There are some criticisms here on the newish Beneilli gun, but by and large the participants are treating the company with respect. But a Turkish gun, now that is a whole different story. Yildiz guns never display worse flaws than not firing and not ejecting, certainly never as a routine characteristic of a particular gun model, yet a Benelli or a Beretta gets away with it while the Yildiz is ridiculed.

No one is extrapolating the 828U problems to the comany as a whole and saying only a fool would buy a Benelli. Sure you might suggest that purchasing the 828U might not be a good idea, but no one is trashing the Benelli name. In fact if you just scan the current threads, you will see complaints about manifold examples of the famous name guns malfunctioning, often seriously. But the Italian and German makers are immune to systemic criticism. That is all saved for the Turkish guns like Yildiz, which cost a small fraction of the amount and just work fine. It is both bizarre and maddening.

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 Post subject: Re: 828U Sporting
PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:37 pm 
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There’s a Turkish shotgun forum down the list here. No crying. SUAS.:-)


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 Post subject: Re: 828U Sporting
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:30 am 
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There’s a Turkish shotgun forum down the list here. No crying. SUAS.:-)



:lol: :shock: :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: 828U Sporting
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:56 am 
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oyeme wrote:
lossking wrote:
RSQ3John wrote:
And a footnote. The 828U Sport is a good gun with some weaknesses that seem unfixable.

1) Failure to strike the primer - just a click and that's it.
2) Failure to eject spent cases

The importer here in UK (GMK) seems unable to fix. Avoid the 828U Sport - it is, sadly, a lemon.


It's a good gun, just doesn't always fire the shell and, if it does, doesn't always eject the empty. Other than that...
:lol: :lol: :lol:


Thank you for that clarification on what you consider a "good" gun. We will just have to disagree on the definition of a "good" gun. I consider any gun that is not 100% reliable with quality factory ammo as anything but "good". The fact that the failures are not fixable; makes it far from a "good" gun IMO. Maybe for a cheap gun that has been worn out but certainly not for what those 828U Sportings sell. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. Take care.


I wasn't serious, o, per the laughing faces at the end of my post and agree that 100% reliability is mandatory. I wouldn't want an 828 if it was free.


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 Post subject: Re: 828U Sporting
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:59 am 
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oyeme wrote:
lossking wrote:
RSQ3John wrote:
And a footnote. The 828U Sport is a good gun with some weaknesses that seem unfixable.

1) Failure to strike the primer - just a click and that's it.
2) Failure to eject spent cases

The importer here in UK (GMK) seems unable to fix. Avoid the 828U Sport - it is, sadly, a lemon.


It's a good gun, just doesn't always fire the shell and, if it does, doesn't always eject the empty. Other than that...
:lol: :lol: :lol:


Thank you for that clarification on what you consider a "good" gun. We will just have to disagree on the definition of a "good" gun. I consider any gun that is not 100% reliable with quality factory ammo as anything but "good". The fact that the failures are not fixable; makes it far from a "good" gun IMO. Maybe for a cheap gun that has been worn out but certainly not for what those 828U Sportings sell. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. Take care.


I wasn't serious, o, per the laughing faces at the end of my post and agree that 100% reliability is mandatory. I wouldn't want an 828 if it was free.[/quote]

Got it! Sorry but I am bit thick sometimes. :?


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 Post subject: Re: 828U Sporting
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:04 am 
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oyeme wrote:
lossking wrote:
I wasn't serious, o, per the laughing faces at the end of my post and agree that 100% reliability is mandatory. I wouldn't want an 828 if it was free.


Got it! Sorry but I am bit thick sometimes. :?


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 Post subject: Re: 828U Sporting
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:50 pm 
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rpenmanparker wrote:
I tell you what confuses me. This Benelli is a product from a respected Italian shotgun company which is in turn owned by one of the most highly respected shotgun makers, Beretta.


So was the UGB-25, so was the SBE3, and so it goes. Savage is a well-respected company, but see the Renegauge. So is Remington, but see the 105 Cti. So is Browning-- see the A500G.



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