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 Post subject: Seeking input from Ultra Light fans (or haters)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:54 am 
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An old old elbow injury appears to be catching up with me - most noticeably when I carry during long days of upland hunting. I have lighter weight guns in the sub-gauges (Ithaca, Franchi), but I'm considering the Ultra Light 12 gauge for pheasant and maybe chukar hunting.

I have read many online reviews and the most common negative comments are harsh recoil and too light/whippy causing over-swing on targets. Frankly, haven't seen many "I love this gun" comments.

I'm looking insight/advice from those with experience with this gun - good, bad or otherwise.

Should mention that I use an M2 for waterfowl and love it for this application, but my elbow is not appreciating it so much during upland hunts. Also, never been recoil sensitive to any gun, but maybe this gun is in a league all it's own?

Appreciate your help with this!




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 Post subject: Re: Seeking input from Ultra Light fans (or haters)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:44 pm 
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what about a sling for the m2?

all my duck guns have had slings and i'm tempted to put some on bird guns as our new pup is a pointer.


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 Post subject: Re: Seeking input from Ultra Light fans (or haters)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:10 pm 
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I use a sling for waterfowling since I'm in and around water a lot. I'm guessing you know why I never set up or take down deeks without the gun slung on my shoulder - ha ha!

For slightly different reasons, I prefer to keep the gun unslinged position while hunting upland. Ya just never know! I do keep a lightweight sling on the gun while chukar hunting since I'm in the cliffs and talus.


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 Post subject: Re: Seeking input from Ultra Light fans (or haters)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:21 pm 
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sure enough, when ducking the gun never leaves my side. seems like the moment you drop waders to take a leak or walk out to adjust a decoy birds show up.

this will be my first season doing upland with my own dog and unsure about the sling idea. seems like it would be safer and easier with one but i guess missing out on a bumped bird would suck pretty bad.


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 Post subject: Re: Seeking input from Ultra Light fans (or haters)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:22 pm 
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i have the m2 and recently shouldered the 20ga UL. Really like the ramped rib and light weight. i think it's a great option.


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 Post subject: Re: Seeking input from Ultra Light fans (or haters)
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:02 am 
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I only use them for upland so I shoot 2 3/4. Never shot a 3" out of them. For upland of course they're carried a lot and shot occasionally and for this recoil is not an issue IMO. Started with a 20 and liked it so much got a 12. It is the one I grab if walking and carrying all day. Tore my left bicep (forearm holding side) so I appreciate the light weight even more if I have to hold the gun for very long (walking). If I used one for ducks with heavy loads I think it would be okay recoil wise depending on how many shots in a day. Probably would not want to shoot it with heavy loads if I was going to shoot a lot and I usually don't mind a bit of recoil. Overall I would highly recommend one.


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 Post subject: Re: Seeking input from Ultra Light fans (or haters)
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:49 am 
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Thanks to you both for taking the time to provide suggestions to my questions!

Hope to hear more from folks that have any experience with the Ultra Light.


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 Post subject: Re: Seeking input from Ultra Light fans (or haters)
PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:52 am 
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I had an UL 12 ga and sold it. That was a stupid mistake. Great gun in all respects, for hunting. If I was looking for a clays gun, not so much, but for the dozen or two daily shots when hunting, it’s a real nice gun.
My brother has a safe full of shotguns, including a 12 UL. That gun gets used by far the most.


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 Post subject: Re: Seeking input from Ultra Light fans (or haters)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:33 am 
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My pheasant group bought two UL 12ga when they first came out. A hi-power load (3-3/4 dram 1-1/4) was the upper end of comfortable shooting. The traditional montefeltro prove to be a better pheasant choice, weight wise and 4rd magazine capacity. The M2 remains popular with our younger guys.
You might consider a new model just released; the Ethos synthetic BEST model blends the Ethos receiver and profile with the M2 comfort tech stock, weighing in at 6.6 lbs in 26”. BEST stands for a new weatherproof finish on the metal, giving a matte black finish. I’ve just taken ownership of one, but have not shot it.


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 Post subject: Re: Seeking input from Ultra Light fans (or haters)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:14 pm 
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Just checked back in on this. I haven't pulled the trigger yet - so to speak - but want to thank all for the insights you have provided. Much obliged!


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 Post subject: Re: Seeking input from Ultra Light fans (or haters)
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:21 am 
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PNWIthacaJunkie wrote:
An old old elbow injury appears to be catching up with me - most noticeably when I carry during long days of upland hunting. I have lighter weight guns in the sub-gauges (Ithaca, Franchi), but I'm considering the Ultra Light 12 gauge for pheasant and maybe chukar hunting.


Free advice: stick with a 20 gauge!!! My 6 lb.-on-the-nose M2 is very, very enjoyable to carry, if you want a Benelli. There are other options as well (6-1/4 lb. B-80) other 6-1/4 lb. gas 20s if recoil is a factor for you, beyond just the light weight.

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 Post subject: Re: Seeking input from Ultra Light fans (or haters)
PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:56 pm 
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I love my BUL! I use it more than any thing else for upland birds. Like you, recoil has yet to become an issue for me.

Having said that, the new Montefeltro Silver in 20ga, and the new Browning Sweet 16 will be getting some playing time this year. I don't think a 16ga or 20ga when loaded properly, are much of a handicap in this game. The 20ga Monte and Sweet 16 are both lighter than my BUL. Food for thought.

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 Post subject: Re: Seeking input from Ultra Light fans (or haters)
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:47 pm 
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Well, thanks for a few more points of consideration!

With a couple of Ithaca Model 37s in 20 and 16 gauge and a Franchi Affinity 20, I may have everything I need already and am perhaps just trying to justify filling an open space in the safe.

I like the idea of a wood gun for upland and a little unsure about my ability to effectively deal with chukar and pheasants (which are a bit new to me) with the pump guns. So, was coming at this with the notion of covering a vacancy in 12 gauge with a nice lightweight wood gun that is easy on the elbow and quick with follow up shots since #1 seems to often just warm the barrel.

As previously stated, your expertise and friendly advice are most appreciated!


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 Post subject: Re: Seeking input from Ultra Light fans (or haters)
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:54 pm 
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As far as chukar go... There is no equal to a BUL!



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