Simple question - I have searched but couldn't find the answer - what is the difference between 1200 and 1300?

Thanks!

The difference between 1200 and 1300 is 100. Yeah, it's a bad joke. I knew it was wrong, I did it anyway.

Two big differences:

1) The 1200 is a self loader, the 1300 is a pump.

2) The 1200 is no longer being manufactured, the 1300 is.

The 1200 is a pump and the 1400 is an autoloader.

I think the 1200 is just the older model pump shotgun, and the 1300 is the current production pump.

On the 12ga's I am pretty sure the 1200's are chambered for just 2 3/4" shells and the 1300 does 3". They are very similar otherwise.

1200 a pump? Doh!

That's ok, despite my name I had to check to be sure myself

Ok, here goes, the 1200 and 1300 are basically the action. The 1200 came with walnut wood that had impressed checkering and was offered in a magnum model but not until around 1967 or 1968 when I bought a magnum to add to my 2 2/3" standard 1200. The wood was the same on both.

The 1300 came out with cheaper wood, I believe it was possibly birch because it was heavy and light in color. The forarm wood was ribbed like the old model 12's and the ranger model 1300 had no checking at all.

The 1300 was offered in a 1300 XTR model which was absolutely beautiful! Great wood wide contoured forarm and hand checkering at 22 lines per inch! WOW! It came in 3" as the standard chambering.

There was also a deer gun offered in the Ranger model, very plain Jane and at first without rifling in the barrel and then later a rifled barrel.

They also made a 120 Model in between which was a very cheap 3" magnum.

How do I know? I own one of each! I did give my nephew the 120 but the others are still in my gun cabinet.

Ken

Okay, some of this will be a repeat of what you posted, dlbbarrel, so just consider any redundancy 'confirmation'.

Here's what I think I know:

1200
1200 Magnum
1300
Ranger
120
Sears/Ted Williams 200


All basically the same gun. As has been said, the 1200 is normally 2 3/4" but there was a 3" mag. model labeled 'Magnum'. The 1300 was the next version and all of those have 3" capabilities. The 120 and Sears 200 were both available in 3", although I think the Sears 200 originated in a 2 3/4" only version. All barrels, butt stocks, and forearms (as well as SOME, but not all) other parts are generally interchangeable, regardless of barrel chamber length. However, I have found some of the 200 series barrels that would not interchange due to different chamber choulder machining notches...wouldn't quite seat, although they appeared externally identical. You can put a 1300 3" barrel on a 1200 2 3/4" chambered gun, as long as you only use the shorter shells. The standard 1200 is capable of being modified to 3" by a gunsmith. The 1200 and 200 were available in 16 gauge, as well as 20 and 12.

The Ted Williams Sears model has a flat cut on the Stock where it meets the receiver like an older Model 12. All the rest is the same as the 1200 models. The diffence between the 1200 and the 1300 is the 1200 Model will not shoot 3" Mags and the 1300 will. And the 120 is a cheaper Model 1300 varient which has hardwood with no checkering and was targeted at Military and Police sells.

8 freakin years! Awesome!

Absolutely !!

The 1200 has a "slide arm bridge" that attaches to the bolt with a screw. This prevents the bolt from coming out the front of the receiver without removing the screw(generally).

The 1300 "slide arm bridge" doesn't have this design "feature".

That's one of my recollections....

PS - 11 days since the last post.....YYYEEEAAAAHHHH!!!!

That is correct - the 1200 has a screw holding slide arm onto the bolt carrier, the 1300 does not otherwise basically identical.

Another 4 years, 2 months! Zombie thread!

Sometimes it is fun to resurrect the dead.

Hey, I learned of the existence of the XTR. Something everyday.

Hello

i use google translate

I currently have a winchester model 1300/12 gauge. 28 "barrell

i want to buy a new (used) barrell (deer slug barrell)

question: is the model 120 & 1300xtr barrell is compatible with my model 1300 shotgun

The bolt design changed a little at least three times I know of. I would show you but pictures are a pain for this forum. I will see if I can get them to load that shows the difference.

https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/cpg1410/displayimage.php?album=11&pos=0

The bolt on the left is the most recent and did away with the screw for the bottom plate.

Loving this necro-thread...but anyway...

Question: does anyone know if the 1200 bolts can be updated with a 1300 bolt? The screw can be a PITA.

Yep! All the generations of them will work

Thanks, that was my guess. I've got a pair of 1200s. I've had one of them since the late 1960s...no problems, but that screw can be stubborn, and I've read reports of them shearing.

Do you (or anyone else) have any feeling for how often that happens? One of the 1200s is one of the home defense shotguns and if that screw is realistically a weak spot I'd replace the bolt assembly.