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 Post subject: Re: Suggestions on my new Mossberg shockwave forend
PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:12 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Suggestions on my new Mossberg shockwave forend
PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:02 am 
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I do not know what would be best as far as a hand guard. The NC Star bayonet lug adapter does have two rail sections on it for a light and LASER. Then again that was for an 870 with a factory extended magazine. The shorter barrel on the "Shockwave" would prevent its use.

As for the strap... I have a Mossberg 500 with a factory installed ATI pistol grip and collapsible stock. It has the monogrammed "Mossberg" strap on the forend. I replaced the rear ATI with a Raptor handgrip and found that high brass buck and ball recoil would cause the Mossbergs safety to impact the web of my hand drawing blood. Never had a problem losing control with the forend since the strap was keeping my hand in place. I can see the theoretical worry of hand injury but know in my case the hand guard control was where the strap excelled.

As for my pseudo "Shockwave" it now has a traditional stock on it. Makes me much happier. I plan to sell off the ATI and Raptor grips/stock.

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 Post subject: Re: Suggestions on my new Mossberg shockwave forend
PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:49 pm 
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Old thread I know but,
Best light for the Shockwave is the Streamlight TL-Racker. 1,000 lumens, 20,000 candella, with batteries comes in at just over 12oz.


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 Post subject: Re: Suggestions on my new Mossberg shockwave forend
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:47 pm 
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Be careful. Rail on the fore-end can really chew up your hand.

Another option is that StreamLight has introduced an integral fore-end/light at a much more reasonable price. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/102084710

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 Post subject: Re: Suggestions on my new Mossberg shockwave forend
PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:51 am 
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Ezra Smack wrote:
Be careful. Rail on the fore-end can really chew up your hand.

Another option is that StreamLight has introduced an integral fore-end/light at a much more reasonable price. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/102084710



As I stated just above, the part number for the Shockwave light is 69602, was able to find it for $124 (free shipping) from premiumselectsupplies.com. To me a better option than Surefire, not $350, not as heavy, 1,000 lumens compared to 800, 20,000 candella , hot spot is wider than Surefire, forend light puts the light on the center line of the gun, to me better than light mounted on a rail to one side.


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 Post subject: Re: Suggestions on my new Mossberg shockwave forend
PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:27 pm 
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If you're not too worried about a light, the Magpul MOE forend (either modified by GG&G or DYI modified to fit the Shockwave) is great. It's comfortable in the hand, gives a good grip, the higher profile protects your fingers from a hot barrel, it looks good (IMO) and the M-Lok slots at 3, 6 and 9 o'clock make it very versatile. The big caveat here, imo, is the light mounting issue...

My first setup was an InForce WML mounted on the left (support hand) side of my Magpul MOE forend.
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InForce lights are really bright and tough. The activation button fell really easily under my thumb, so this setup felt great when I first installed it. Then, I took it to the range... It turns out that the light battered my thumb with every shot. After a few magazines of assorted rounds, I had to take the light off.

Next, I tried the WML at the 6 o'clock location.
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I actually like this location for the light. Any shadow thrown by the barrel (very little, since the Shockwave's barrel is so short) is thrown straight up, so it's effect is negligible. I like that much better than having a shadow thrown to one side of the room. I can activate the light from this position, but not as easily as it was in the 9 o'clock position. I have to either move my hand to press the button with my thumb, or use the knuckle of my index finger. Either way is do-able, but not ideal. Also, it's hard to use the light momentarily in this position, and that's a requirement, imo. It's not bad, but still not what I'm looking for.

My next trial will be the Streamlight TL-Racker. I was interested when Streamlight put this out, but they only had versions for the Rem 870 and regular Mossberg 500/590. Well, they heard the demand and just released a version to fit the Shockwave, so I ordered one last night. This solution seems almost ideal. (Other than being kind of ugly, imo.)
Bright - 1000 lumens with a 1.5 hour run time
Easy activation - long activation strips on both sides can be pressed with thumb or fingers
Momentary - it's important to be able to only have the light on for a moment and be able to go dark quickly
Comfortable - It's been described as providing a grip angle much like that of a Magpul AFG
Price - at only $125 it's much more affordable than the similar $325 Surefire forend
I'll post pics after I get it installed and an impression after a range trip.


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 Post subject: Re: Suggestions on my new Mossberg shockwave forend
PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:17 pm 
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After running the light for a few weeks now ( half dozen practice at 200rds per), take batteries out for day time practice as light is easy to turn on, after install forend is a little tight at rear position (barrel thickness on some guns), I did not trim it, just ran the gun (10 rds and all was good), light is very bright in the house, outside I can easily and clearly see my barn that is 50 yds from the house, on the range at night 100yds is good, 50 and is is outstanding.


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 Post subject: Re: Suggestions on my new Mossberg shockwave forend
PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:10 am 
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DBrevit wrote:
After running the light for a few weeks now ( half dozen practice at 200rds per), take batteries out for day time practice as light is easy to turn on, after install forend is a little tight at rear position (barrel thickness on some guns), I did not trim it, just ran the gun (10 rds and all was good), light is very bright in the house, outside I can easily and clearly see my barn that is 50 yds from the house, on the range at night 100yds is good, 50 and is is outstanding.



Good to hear! I should be receiving mine tomorrow. I'm really looking forward to it.

Are you running yours with the strap in place, or have you removed it? It looks kind of flimsy in the pics I've seen.


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 Post subject: Re: Suggestions on my new Mossberg shockwave forend
PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:26 am 
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I took it off as it kind of gets in the way.


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 Post subject: Re: Suggestions on my new Mossberg shockwave forend
PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:50 pm 
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I received the TL-Racker today. I haven't gotten to shoot with it yet (hopefully tomorrow) but I really like it. It's really well thought out.

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The grip feels similar to the AFG I had before, but the angle is more natural and the way it fills my palm feels just right. For the Shockwave version of the TL-Racker, Streamlight adde more of a hook to the area just behind the light, giving a very positive hand stop. They also added swivels and a hand strap for those who are worried about their hand slipping off. The combination of ribs and texture give a really good grip without being overly aggressive.

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The activation strips fall very easily to hand; a quick press turns the light on and another turns it off. Holding the switch a little longer activates momentary mode and releasing it turns the light off again. Streamlight increased the light output from it's original 850 to 1000 lumens for this second generation TL-Racker. The beam is a good medium spread between spot and flood.

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The battery compartment is sealed with an o-ring and holds 2 CR123 batteries. The cap is plastic and has a notch that is VERY OBVIOUSLY sized to allow you to use a quarter to turn it if the cap gets stuck. I can't tell you have many idiots I've seen on Youtube who have buggered up the cap trying to turn it with a flathead screwdriver (facepalm).

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The provisions for the hand strap are pretty well thought out, even if the strap itself looks and feels cheap. If I was planning to leave a strap on my gun on, I would replace it with a woven paracord strap. Since my Shockwave has a pistol brace and a front sling mount, and the TL-Racker has a built in hand stop, I'd really have to try to get my hand out in front of a live round. I don't like how the strap catches my hand and require extra movement for me to get my support hand back to the breach area to load a round. I'll be taking it off post haste.

I still don't think the TL-Racker looks as good as the Magpul MOE, but it's not as ugly in person as I thought it looked from the pics I saw before I bought it. Or maybe the great fit, feel and function is making it look better to me that it would otherwise. I guess the ultimate beauty is utility when it come to an HD/SD tool.




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