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 Post subject: The ultimate tactical shotgun?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:02 pm 
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I looked this thing over at a gun shop and couldn't leave it there. A few months later it was chopped and converted into a trench gun replica.
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 Post subject: Re: The ultimate tactical shotgun?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:36 pm 
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There is something mean about a shotgun with a bayonet, it just says get the f%$# off my lawn.

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 Post subject: Re: The ultimate tactical shotgun?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:24 am 
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10x better without the bayonet unless it’s for show hanging on a wall.


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 Post subject: Re: The ultimate tactical shotgun?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:44 am 
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Germansheperd wrote:
10x better without the bayonet unless it’s for show hanging on a wall.

Do you even bayonet train, bro?


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 Post subject: Re: The ultimate tactical shotgun?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:45 am 
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Bob9863 wrote:
There is something mean about a shotgun with a bayonet, it just says get the f%$# off my lawn.

That is correct!


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 Post subject: Re: The ultimate tactical shotgun?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:49 pm 
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Rick_A wrote:
Germansheperd wrote:
10x better without the bayonet unless it’s for show hanging on a wall.

Do you even bayonet train, bro?

Doesn't everyone?

It's a great way to bend barrels.

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 Post subject: Re: The ultimate tactical shotgun?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:23 pm 
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A bayonet makes it long and unwieldy but handy in a trench as intended.
But it's also fairly intimidating at 2am if your in the wrong house.

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 Post subject: Re: The ultimate tactical shotgun?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:45 am 
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If you are Bayonet-Intimidating people in your house who broke in there @ 0200hrs, you're doing it wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: The ultimate tactical shotgun?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:06 pm 
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It looks like it belongs in a museum somewhere, it would be my last choice for any practical use


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 Post subject: Re: The ultimate tactical shotgun?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:30 am 
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Rick_A wrote:
Germansheperd wrote:
10x better without the bayonet unless it’s for show hanging on a wall.

Do you even bayonet train, bro?

Playing games like that can get you killed. Have you watched to many movies?


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 Post subject: Re: The ultimate tactical shotgun?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:19 am 
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OldStufferA5#1911 wrote:
Rick_A wrote:
Germansheperd wrote:
10x better without the bayonet unless it’s for show hanging on a wall.

Do you even bayonet train, bro?

Doesn't everyone?

It's a great way to bend barrels.

When have you seen that actually happen? :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: The ultimate tactical shotgun?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:23 am 
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OldStufferA5#1911 wrote:
If you are Bayonet-Intimidating people in your house who broke in there @ 0200hrs, you're doing it wrong.

I would say the person who broke in was doing it wrong...but that's just me...bayonet or not.


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 Post subject: Re: The ultimate tactical shotgun?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:28 am 
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El Gringo wrote:
It looks like it belongs in a museum somewhere, it would be my last choice for any practical use

I much prefer it to my more modern Remington 870 Wingmaster and over a new 590A1. The action is smooth as glass...like it's on roller bearings. It's my favorite pump gun to date, and an excellent design in any era.


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 Post subject: Re: The ultimate tactical shotgun?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:32 am 
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Germansheperd wrote:
Rick_A wrote:
Germansheperd wrote:
10x better without the bayonet unless it’s for show hanging on a wall.

Do you even bayonet train, bro?

Playing games like that can get you killed. Have you watched to many movies?

That's a ridiculous notion.

No, I've been professionally trained in the combat use of a bayonet.


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 Post subject: Re: The ultimate tactical shotgun?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:56 am 
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Rick_A wrote:
That's a ridiculous notion.

No, I've been professionally trained in the combat use of a bayonet.


I've broken a number of bayonets over the years, never seen a barrel bend yet.

And if that's your self defense gun and you bend the barrel, then it will mean the intruder is in no condition to cause you any problems, and if he tries then give it a twist, rest and bend the barrel a little bit more in him/her.

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 Post subject: Re: The ultimate tactical shotgun?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:19 pm 
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Rick_A wrote:
OldStufferA5#1911 wrote:
If you are Bayonet-Intimidating people in your house who broke in there @ 0200hrs, you're doing it wrong.

I would say the person who broke in was doing it wrong...but that's just me...bayonet or not.

The person who broke in, since that term is being used in the past tense, it assumes that person has done their part properly, they successfully broke in.
The "right or wrong" of the act is different.

Since, again, per the discussion, THAT person has "done their part right" (successfully breaking in), if you are "intimidating" a still fully erect, still fully functional, still uninjured, House-Breaker-Inner with a bayonet, YOU are "doing it wrong".
You should have already used the part the bayonet is attached to, on the House-Breaker-Inner, possibly repeatedly, until they were no longer a viable threat to your safety.

One of the clues to "reduced threat status" is being Horizontal in some manner, possibly while Bleeding Profusely (it distracts them from attacking you (unless John Wick (or a SEAL team) just B&E'd you, in which case, just shoot yourself, you are screwed)).

"Intimidating" someone in a deadly threat situation in order to avoid actually shooting them, is a grand way to get killed.

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 Post subject: Re: The ultimate tactical shotgun?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:47 pm 
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If I were to add something to my HD shotgun that made it any longer it would be an extended magazine.

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 Post subject: Re: The ultimate tactical shotgun?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:11 pm 
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Only if the magazine was longer.

A bayonet is a weapon of last resort, but it has proven itself time and time again as a deadly weapon once you ammunition is all used up.

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 Post subject: Re: The ultimate tactical shotgun?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:45 pm 
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Your chances of using up your ammunition in a real home invasion are extremely remote.
Unlike highly trained and motivated soldiers, home invaders scatter like chickens when the shooting starts. They are not prepared to lay down their lives for the sake of the mission so that their surviving buddies can walk off with your big screen TV.

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 Post subject: Re: The ultimate tactical shotgun?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:34 pm 
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Granted, but it's still kind of cool and historic.

At the end of the day if that's how you want to roll, then roll on son.



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