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 Post subject: Is this a brace or a stock on this shotgun?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:37 pm 
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I bought this Mossberg Shockwave with this brace or stock installed. The seller told me it was a stock, and I would need an NFA stamp, but I'm not so sure.

Any help greatly appreciated.




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 Post subject: Re: Is this a brace or a stock on this shotgun?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:41 pm 
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Looks like a standard AR adjustable stock to me.

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 Post subject: Re: Is this a brace or a stock on this shotgun?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:05 pm 
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So this needs to come off until I get an NFA stamp? Easy to remove and replace?


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 Post subject: Re: Is this a brace or a stock on this shotgun?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:06 pm 
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That is a stock not a brace! Get it off before you get a visit from the man.

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 Post subject: Re: Is this a brace or a stock on this shotgun?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:38 am 
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I took it off and put the raptor grip on it.

I've been googling, and I'm still not quite sure I understand the difference between a stock and brace.


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 Post subject: Is this a brace or a stock on this shotgun?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:10 am 
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A brace was specifically designed to not be a stock. designed and manufactured to be used to stabilize a firearm, with an arm as opposed to a shoulder. Started with AR “pistols” and did not make a pistol an SBR by definition when applied.
This has now transitioned into pistol style shotguns. A brace would not require NFA approval, a stock will.
A brace typically(not always) has a method to attach the component to an arm, a strap usually, sometimes a hook style. A stock does not have such an attachment design.


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 Post subject: Re: Is this a brace or a stock on this shotgun?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:06 am 
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mikemck wrote:
I bought this Mossberg Shockwave with this brace or stock installed. The seller told me it was a stock, and I would need an NFA stamp, but I'm not so sure.

Any help greatly appreciated.


As others have already said, the pic is of a stock.

Do not expect US gun laws &/or ATF interpretations to be "logical". That said, my understanding is...once a "stock" is installed on an "other", the "other" automatically becomes an SBS & that negates that specific receiver from ever being considered as an "other" again. IOW, one can install an 18" barrel & stock on an "other", but if that is done, it will need to NFA stamped for SBS before a sub 18" barrel is reinstalled.

Perhaps those more up on "other" (non-NFA) nuances can enlighten me if I am incorrect.


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 Post subject: Re: Is this a brace or a stock on this shotgun?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 3:23 pm 
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Okay, just to make sure I understand this somewhat.

I could buy an SBA3 brace and put it on a shockwave, and that's okay. But not this "stock" that was on it?

Seems I could easily run afoul of some trouble. Thankfully I think I prefer the raptor grip.


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 Post subject: Re: Is this a brace or a stock on this shotgun?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:42 pm 
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mikemck wrote:
Okay, just to make sure I understand this somewhat.

I could buy an SBA3 brace and put it on a shockwave, and that's okay. But not this "stock" that was on it?

Seems I could easily run afoul of some trouble. Thankfully I think I prefer the raptor grip.


Yes. As a general rule, under the current interpretation, provided the OAL is at least 26", then a PGO or brace is good to go on an "other".


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 Post subject: Re: Is this a brace or a stock on this shotgun?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:30 pm 
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I'lll surely keep all this in mind.

I want to a put out a reminder to others here, although everyone but me probably already keeps this in mind.

When/If you buy used guns, make sure they have a serial number, and it's not covered with some kind of epoxy or other such crap that makes the gun completely illegal and useless.

If you buy a shotgun and it has s shell carrier/side saddle, take it off before you buy and make sure the serial number is intact.

Just putting that out there.




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