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 Post subject: Alternate loading for a Bellini SN Tactical question
PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:38 pm 
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My Supernova can be loaded with the hammer down (uncocked) by holding the forearm in a forward position. This is contrary to the user manual which states the gun must be cocked and locked to load it.
Question: Is there any harm to the gun loading it uncocked?
The advantage is that I don’t have to either store it with the firing spring under tension (what the cops call “cruiser ready”) or have a snap cap in the chamber that may not eject or jam under duress.

Also, loading an uncocked gun in the house just seems safer.




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 Post subject: Re: Alternate loading for a Bellini SN Tactical question
PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:59 pm 
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Modern springs do not loose tension by by being stored under tension . Your car is full of them.

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 Post subject: Re: Alternate loading for a Bellini SN Tactical question
PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:50 pm 
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https://idcspring.com/spring-lose-tensi ... ompressed/

Basic physics says otherwise, as do these experts.


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 Post subject: Re: Alternate loading for a Bellini SN Tactical question
PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:44 pm 
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Springs weaken and ultimately break from repeated compression and relaxation. There have been documented cases of magazines that have been stored fully loaded since WWII that worked just fine. Sure they shorten a bit and lose a little bit of tension but not enough to negatively effect reliability. Especially if you download by one.

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 Post subject: Re: Alternate loading for a Bellini SN Tactical question
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:44 pm 
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"Cruiser ready" is a terrible idea and especially so if you're this worried about safety. Having a clear chamber means you have three steps you need to mess up to accidentally fire the gun; you need to hit the slide release, take the safety off if you chose to have it on, and then pull the trigger to accidentally fire the gun. If you leave it uncocked, that means the locking lugs are not engaged and the handguard is free to move to the rear. When it comes to the rear, it releases a shell from the magazine so you either have it sitting on your lifter for who knows how long or the handguard is partially to the rear, engages the hammer, and it ends up cocked anyway which defeats the purpose of this entire idiotic "cruiser ready" idea and "leave it uncocked" thread. Potentially worst case though, your shells ends up halfway out of the magazine because your locking lug wasn't engaged and handguard opened slightly, with some sort of hull deformation resulting, that round ultimately becomes incapable of feeding or chambering. If you want to go to highly improbable place, your obvious inexperience (not necessarily an insult but you're obviously very inexperienced otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation) suggests that you're not going to know how to clear that malfunction. I would say that the best thing you can do is train with your gun so you gain a better understand of how this mechanical device operates and have less fear and uncertainty associated with it. That and just load the damn gun like a normal person; full magazine, round in the chamber, safety on.




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