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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of buying a performance car
PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:30 pm 
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I had a Boss 429 back in 70, and traded it in on a 72 Nova SS.......STUPID, STUPID, STUPID, they are crazy stupid in price now.
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Was that the overhead cam V8? The over-head-cam is the thing I like about the mustang V8. Being aluminum also helps.

No the Boss 429 wasn't OHC. I believe you're thinking of the 427.

I had a Boss 302 for a while. My dad was a Ford dealer, and got to spend some time behind the wheel.




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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of buying a performance car
PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:07 pm 
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I sold my 69 Yenko Camaro (1 of 160) for $2,450.00. Bought it new for $3,850.00. Last one that sold, sold on the Dupont Registry for $635,000.

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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of buying a performance car
PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:10 pm 
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Back in the day I had a couple different Trans Ams, the last one had all the whistles and bells...HO engine, 5-spd, handling package, etc. Waaay more car than you can really use on the highways.

When I retired a few years ago, my retirement present to myself was a new MBZ CLS-550. I test drove the 6.3 AMG version but told my wife that I could get in trouble with the 550 but would probably wind up in jail with the AMG.

The 550 only has about 380 hp vs just over 500 for the AMG but on a trip to Vegas while trying to pass a clown only doing about 60 in the fast lane, and not having any extra room to get it done, once I got around him and looked down at the speedo', it was showing a little over 130. (gulp) On another occasion coming back from Phoenix mid-day on a Monday with almost no traffic, I noticed that I'd slowly crept the cruise control up to 95 and the ride was just as smooth as if I'd been doing 65.

I have no idea what the market is on used ones, but if you can find a clean used one in your price range... The only caveat is that the dealers want a fortune for everything. Like $40 per qt for Mobil 1, and the 550 takes 9 qts!


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of buying a performance car
PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:53 pm 
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Stuck-N-Kali wrote:
Back in the day I had a couple different Trans Ams, the last one had all the whistles and bells...HO engine, 5-spd, handling package, etc. Waaay more car than you can really use on the highways.

I have no idea what the market is on used MBZs, but if you can find a clean used one in your price range... The only caveat is that the dealers want a fortune for everything. Like $40 per qt for Mobil 1, and the 550 takes 9 qts!


Comments on your trans Am, is pretty much my thought to look more toward something like the V6 Camaro, that is also probably way more than you can use 99.9% of the time on the highways.

On the German stuff, my general impression is that they are great cars but anything German seems to be over-priced. I have a friend that drives older Mercedes a lot. He is quite a car nut. In his case being a car nut does not cost him money, he actually became rich playing with them. He started out as a body and fender man, restored his model A in slack times in the shop, sold it for large profit, bought another, sold it, etc. etc. Pretty soon he is buying and selling very expensive collector cars and he always buys right and sells right, made a fortune in the process. He really likes the idea of buying a good used Mercedes.


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of buying a performance car
PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:06 pm 
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How many young men can afford to buy a sports car and then keep it garaged for 50 years in hopes that it might appreciate? You could probably do just as well if you had bought land on the edge of town 50 years ago.

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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of buying a performance car
PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:24 pm 
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my advice.
go and physically look at the types of cars you think you want.
I got a super deal on a Mustang GT.
it's right up the alley of what your looking at.
speed, handling, and fuel mileage.
I done some modifications to it and knock on the door of 30 MPG. up here in the mountains.

I hardly ever drive it.
it doesn't do well in town [easy to park though]
it isn't easy for me to get in and out of [I have to step in and roll through the door opening to get in, and do a half slide and twist maneuver to get out]
every cop on the planet looks it over 16 different ways every time I'm near them even driving 5 MPH under any speed limit.


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of buying a performance car
PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:46 pm 
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fiver wrote:
my advice.
go and physically look at the types of cars you think you want.

I hardly ever drive my Mustang.
it doesn't do well in town [easy to park though]
it isn't easy for me to get in and out of [I have to step in and roll through the door opening to get in, and do a half slide and twist maneuver to get out]
every cop on the planet looks it over 16 different ways every time I'm near them even driving 5 MPH under any speed limit.


Good advice, I will try to get to dealers and look. It has to be better than looking at web sites where they tell me standard equipment includes a steering wheel and brakes.

Maybe the cops think you are drug dealer. I read that drug haulers don't exceed the speed limit on the interstate, and everyone else does. The cops actually are looking for people NOT exceeding the limit, since most do. They figure someone not exceeding the limit is trying to not be noticed.


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of buying a performance car
PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:45 pm 
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I dropped into the Nissan dealer today, to see the price 370Z basic
model.

Oneounceload doubts I can find one for under $50,000. That
is sort of mind blowing when the website gives a figure down
about half that as suggested retail for the basic.

First thing, I found the website was totally out-to-lunch as I suspected.
Standard equipment did include air conditioning and cruise control,
something the website never mentioned as they told me it had brakes
and a steering wheel and other stuff that I was pretty sure it had.

Also found out the 370Z are made in Japan and an order on one
takes about 6 months. Also they said the Z has a 7 year, 100,000
mile warranty.

They could not give me a price though. It will be interesting
to see what kind of games go on there. It sort of blows my
mind that they can't give a price immediately. Every special
order I got from Detroit, I had the exact price, and they
were able to make them in no time flat.

They did have a used one with 6,000 miles on it. I was able to sit
in that one and figure out how I liked the general layout.

They are going to email me a price. How close is it going to
be to the advertised? Who knows?


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of buying a performance car
PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:05 pm 
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Buy the Challenger.

I have a 2009 Hemi Challenger w3ith 42K miles on it.

I haven't even put 20 miles on it this year, and now the weather is starting to turn.


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of buying a performance car
PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:13 pm 
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It took a while, but figured it out, w3ith = with.
Looks like Covington is about half way between
Seattle and Tacoma. You getting any rioting and
looting there? You got a fast car to escape in, if
they don't set it on fire.


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of buying a performance car
PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:15 pm 
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Diddle wrote:
IMHO ... Corvette C5. I scratched the same itch with a 2002 C5 coupe. You can buy one in absolutely excellent condition now with less than 20k miles for less than $20k. Awesome car! Best sports car buy on the market.


Real sports cars only have two seats. Buy a used vette. Mine got 27 mpg cause the engine is barely tuning over at 75 mph, has like zero wind resistance, and weighs less than a Mini Cooper. :lol: Seriously, they make surprisingly good road trip cars. Plus whenever your wife wants to buy something you can tell her there’s no room in the trunk!

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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of buying a performance car
PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:53 pm 
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I already own a high performance car and motorcycle. My car gets over 40 miles per gallon on unleaded regular and my motorcycle can get up to 70 mpg on unleaded regular. Now THAT'S performance!

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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of buying a performance car
PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:22 pm 
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Patently Obvious wrote:
Diddle wrote:
IMHO ... Corvette C5. I scratched the same itch with a 2002 C5 coupe. You can buy one in absolutely excellent condition now with less than 20k miles for less than $20k. Awesome car! Best sports car buy on the market.


Real sports cars only have two seats. Buy a used vette. Mine got 27 mpg cause the engine is barely tuning over at 75 mph, has like zero wind resistance, and weighs less than a Mini Cooper. :lol: Seriously, they make surprisingly good road trip cars. Plus whenever your wife wants to buy something you can tell her there’s no room in the trunk!

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It makes a lot of sense, will look more into that.


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of buying a performance car
PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:55 pm 
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You can buy one in absolutely excellent condition now with less than 20k miles for less than $20k.


But where are you going to find it? How many 2002 cars of ANY kind only have 20K miles?

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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of buying a performance car
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:59 am 
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Northern USA snow belt. Corvette drivers will not take them out in the winter snow/salt season which is 6 months. Plus they are pretty anal about maintenance and keeping up with detailing. I sold mine with only 35k miles and I bought it used! Ran it about 4 months a year.


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If you are a serious speed freak, then get one of these; https://youtu.be/HJgMObLsUdE

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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of buying a performance car
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If you are a serious speed freak, then get one of these; https://youtu.be/HJgMObLsUdE


Wow, really fast bike! Take a spill and you're ground beef though. Good video, enjoyed it.


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of buying a performance car
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:10 pm 
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I have a 2207 BMW M Roadster that is an incredible handing car and fast.0-60 in 5 seconds, top speed 155. It is a straight 6 that generates 333 h.p. while being 3.2 liter. When produced it was one of 3 engines in the world that could produce over 100 h.p.per liter with no turbo or supercharger. Mileage is near 30 on the highway. I had 2 other BMWs with this engine. While looking for one we found that almost were very well cared for by their owners.
It was one of the last performance cars produced by BMW that had a manual transmission (6 speed).
If I was a younger man I would look for a new Corvette. A super car for 60 grand. I would be satisfied with the base model. Comparable cars (Italian ) are in the $500,000 range.


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Error, 2007 not 2207.
Also these are two seat convertible.


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 Post subject: Re: Thinking of buying a performance car
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:24 pm 
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The biggest problem with a vette is when you drive the speed limit it’s boring. They handle so tight it’s not fun till you crank them up and then you have to constantly be looking over you shoulder and way ahead. I loved S Dakota‘s 80 mph freeway speed limit. I could cruise 90 mph and not be afraid of losing my license. Plus, I still had a lot more in the tank if I needed to really pass someone and crank it up over 100 mph.




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