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 Post subject: Baikal IJ58 MAE 12g SXS
PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:05 pm 
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Hi all long time no post.

Just picked up a 58 model, anyone have any info?

Were they pre or post 43 model, seems different in the ejector dept my 58 model has a central spring powering the ejectors visible when the fore end is taken off where as if I remember correctly my previous 43's ejectors were powered by individual springs as per the O/U

The gun is either a selective eject or extract depending on the position of a 'switch' located in the fore end

The gun can be made to extractor only by removing the fore end and moving the central selector lever up/ horizontal.
This will extract only the fired cartridge or (both if fully discharged) for easy manual removal by lifting the spent shell to the maximum extractor reach.

Flipping the switch down will put the gun back into selective eject mode, however on mine the left eject only is a little lazy compared to the right, but if both barrels are discharged both shells will leave the gun and be thrown the same distance! Hmm go figure???

Anyone owned one or tuned the ejectors??

A picture or two would speak a thousand words but need to work out how to post them up

Any help much appreciated




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 Post subject: Re: Baikal IJ58 MAE 12g SXS
PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:13 am 
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Izh 43 is a simplified Izh58. Many parts interchange. The gun was in production from 1958 to 1986.

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 Post subject: Re: Baikal IJ58 MAE 12g SXS
PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:00 pm 
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For speaking 1000 words make an account on photobucket.com upload images & post image codes here.

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 Post subject: Re: Baikal IJ58 MAE 12g SXS
PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:46 am 
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Thanks guys hopefully some pics



Overall in nice condition and just back in from a round of sporting. The central ejector spring either pings the left, right or both ejectors depending on the combination of barrel fired and the action of the trip/ release sears in the fore end. Shown with the tip of the screwdriver is the central selector 'switch' for changing between selective eject or extract, shown horizontal for extract.


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 Post subject: Re: Baikal IJ58 MAE 12g SXS
PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:01 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Baikal IJ58 MAE 12g SXS
PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:33 pm 
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Thanks Afzaal let's try again!

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 Post subject: Re: Baikal IJ58 MAE 12g SXS
PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:59 pm 
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Gone mad with photo bucket now, a couple more pics!

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 Post subject: Re: Baikal IJ58 MAE 12g SXS
PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:36 pm 
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Wow superb
I wish I could get 1 the super clean piece.
You guys are lucky.
IJ or soviet guns are vanished here in PK.

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 Post subject: Re: Baikal IJ58 MAE 12g SXS
PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:58 am 
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Now that's interesting. I mean, export grade guns didn't usually have this level of engraving. Do you have a clue as to the history of the gun (who and how first bought it, etc.)?

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 Post subject: Re: Baikal IJ58 MAE 12g SXS
PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:23 am 
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You mean export grade is lower than local market ?
If so thats totally a different story.

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 Post subject: Re: Baikal IJ58 MAE 12g SXS
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There were many grades available on local market. Some of them were lower than what was sent for export, others - higher, with more engraving, etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Baikal IJ58 MAE 12g SXS
PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:39 pm 
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Hi thanks for replies all

Not too sure on it's provenance and age.

I know Baikal's here in the UK have always been renowned for there no nonsense build quality, regarded as working tools for conditions in the field (and in England that usually means cold and wet :) )

Personally I've never known a marque whose barrel materials match up to the chrome bores of the Baikal, never known one to lead up or foul in the bores or forcing cones and this one is no different.

They are a ready to go unit whatever the weather, where as some of the more expensive 'toys' in the collection have never been out in the snow or rain or faced the rigours of being carried and bumped around when afield over ditches and fences and through the woods.

This one caught my eye as there is a good trace of figure to the woodwork and as mentioned some interesting 'engraving' ( very industrial, looks as though it has been milled in!) which adds to it's charm.

An honest tool, that's not too shabby to be in the company of far more expensive company, shoots to point of aim and if the recent round of sporting clays is anything to go by will add it's share of fur and feather to the 'pot' in my ownership


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 Post subject: Re: Baikal IJ58 MAE 12g SXS
PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:54 pm 
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Well stated everything about Baikal
They r workhorse of shotguns not much better finish but would never let you down in any aspect.
Dirt cheap guns but you can compare its service with any B guns
More often I check gunstar just for interest with dropped jaw mouth watering low prices Baikal even upto 75 sterling wow ...
IJ-58mae is my dream wishlist but nowadays almost impossible to find one here in Pakistan ...
Good luck with your great sxs.

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 Post subject: Re: Baikal IJ58 MAE 12g SXS
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 3:27 pm 
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Got one today, Bluing 100% not a scratch on metal anywhere only mine has a thick baikal rubber pad, same scenes on sides, not a pit,scratch or scrape. I like it alottt.

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 Post subject: Re: Baikal IJ58 MAE 12g SXS
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:05 pm 
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A fine shooter ! Hope you get to carry it so much most of the bluing will be gone !


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 Post subject: Re: Baikal IJ58 MAE 12g SXS
PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:59 pm 
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They are very rare here in Pakistan
Could not find a sungle piece on gun stores thats why sellers ask over $1000 even more and new model is available at stores just for $600
People here in PK r crazy lovers of ussr era shotguns.
Even count me one of em.

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 Post subject: Re: Baikal IJ58 MAE 12g SXS
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:07 am 
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Good morning, I am writing to you from Cuba because I read a post from you on a forum and the tension caught me. I have a Baikal ij58 mae and you mentioned it, I would like to know details about that model and what is special about it that you like. Also, if you could help me, I can't find a disarmament manual. Thank you




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