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 Post subject: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:55 pm 
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So Kent has a Bismuth load available this July, 25 rds/box this time. I'd be curious as to the price pt of this one... Hope everyone's having a good spring.



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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:16 pm 
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macks prairie wings and midway shows them on their website listing. $35-$45 a box just not in stock yet


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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:05 pm 
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I'm interested in the 3''20 gauge loads they are going to have as they have more velocity than the current 2 3/4" listed. I think the # 4 will be my first choice what chokes do you think will be good for bismuth loads ?


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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:18 am 
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If I remember correctly, the general recommendation is to choke Bismuth like lead. The pattern board will tell you for sure.


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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:24 pm 
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I think I will start out with a modified choke and see how it looks when the ammo becomes available later this year. I have never tried bismuth before.


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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:39 pm 
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Last summer I did some pattern testing with it. A sample shell cut open revealed the shot size was almost a size small, i.e their 4 shot measures as 5. Shot was consistently spherical. Patterned very well and like lead in my Carlson’s choke.


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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:54 pm 
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I've never used bismuth before either, but a friend gave me two full boxes of these early Winchester brand Bismuth Cartridge Co. 3" 20ga shells, 1 1/16 oz. #5. I'll probably try them in my 11-87 for early teal season or wood ducks and will likely use a modified choke. I also want to try the new Kent Bismuth 12ga loads.

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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:38 pm 
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I also see that they are available in #3 shot size so if they are smaller then they may be about #4 lead size ?


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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:17 pm 
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lossking wrote:
I've never used bismuth before either, but a friend gave me two full boxes of these early Winchester brand Bismuth Cartridge Co. 3" 20ga shells, 1 1/16 oz. #5. I'll probably try them in my 11-87 for early teal season or wood ducks and will likely use a modified choke. I also want to try the new Kent Bismuth 12ga loads.

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Those will be kinda brittle and tend to fracture. The new stuff won't. The new #4 and #5 Bismuth is the ticket for sub gauge Waterfowl. Treat it like lead mod & full are your best friends. {hs#


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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:21 pm 
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la angler wrote:
I also see that they are available in #3 shot size so if they are smaller then they may be about #4 lead size ?


There shouldn’t be a different “lead size” vs. “bismuth size”. If using American nomenclature they should both measure the same, averaging at .13” for #4 shot. But the Kent bismuth just runs a little small, that’s all.

Yes I see that this year they are available in bigger shot sizes. I would definitely go for #3. Cut one open and mic’ it. If measures as 4 shot then not the end of the world for ducks and close geese. If it measures as #3 then there ain’t nuthin wrong with that either.


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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:32 pm 
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DustinG0918 wrote:
macks prairie wings and midway shows them on their website listing. $35-$45 a box just not in stock yet

Thx!

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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:42 pm 
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I've used both the Winchester & the Kent Bismuth. I prefer the Kent Bismuth. I've been using the Kent bismuth that was released two years ago, have had great results in my opinion in both 12 & 20 ga for waterfowl and will try the newest Kent Bismuth. Just my two cents.


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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:15 am 
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Cabela's is advertising 12 ga. 3 1/2 and 3 inch loads from $420 to$370 per case.


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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:33 pm 
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Anyone pick up the new release bismuth in the larger shot size yet?


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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:39 pm 
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I just pattern tested some new Kent 20ga Bismuth 3” 1 ounce of 4”s at 1400fps , 82 percent pattern with factory Rem mod tube out of 870 20ga 23hits in a 8 inch circle at 40yds ,

The info I have read that the 4 shot compares to the weight of steel 2’s

This looks to be a very good duck and pheasant load ,

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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:13 am 
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I used the new Kent Bismuth on a seasick trip this past January. The ducks dropped without a problem

https://www.instagram.com/p/BcXifLFhkfd/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=an3a4vmnma66

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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:12 pm 
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Lefty Ray wrote:
I used the new Kent Bismuth on a seasick trip this past January. The ducks dropped without a problem

https://www.instagram.com/p/BcXifLFhkfd/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=an3a4vmnma66

What's a seasick trip? LOL


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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:04 pm 
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Any more patterning done of 12 ga. possibly?

I am interested in #3 for general duck use. Of course I have found #2 and #4 on the shelf for testing. Used #2 and it worked well in limited use. 12 ga. 3 in.

Not a large supply at stores in CA.


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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:11 pm 
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#4 kent loads seem to be a good load with multiple one shot kills. I was able to get out and took 6 ducks with only one being a teal. A gadwall, widgeon, two ring necks and two spoonie.

Of course this is not a scientific event. Seemed to reduce the amount of cripples.
It has to do that or the cost isn't justified.

I will pattern to see what happens with them beyond that distance.


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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:49 pm 
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I've been out again recently and had success with the #4 load in 12 gauge. By success I mean, more one shot kills vs. regular steel.

Of course, again not scientific by any means.
Just a note- both are 1 3/8 oz 12 gauge 3 in loads. # 4 has 241 pellets. #3 has 153 pellets.
Kent HD bismuth loads.

I am using number 4 and they seem fine so far. My buddy is wondering if the #3 load is better for duck use. We don't get many mallard.

It is mostly widg, gad, spoonie and teal. Some Pin tail and few mallard. Once in a great while a canvas back or a red head.

Any thoughts or experiences with this kent bismuth product would be great.




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