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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:09 pm 
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I patterned the the #4 load with the carlsons mid range choke and 177 pellets were inside the 30 inch circle.
Not prefect but good number of pellets.

I get 73.4 %.

I'd like to hear what other chokes results are being seen on this load or the #3.

This was at 40 yards.




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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:05 am 
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After one season I'd give the new Kent bismuth a thumbs up. It hits hard and patterns good enough. I realize it's not as dense as lead or tungsten but in practice I really can't detect a difference.


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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:38 pm 
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For all the guys who grew up shooting steel,ya gotta treat it like lead.Modified and full are your friends with full being your best friend. I shoot #4's out of 16 gauges both fixed chokes ones mod. other is full. For geese it's 12 gauge 1 1/4 oz of buffered #1's and full choke. Just like being back in the lead days.


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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:11 am 
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ohio mike wrote:
For all the guys who grew up shooting steel,ya gotta treat it like lead.Modified and full are your friends with full being your best friend. I shoot #4's out of 16 gauges both fixed chokes ones mod. other is full. For geese it's 12 gauge 1 1/4 oz of buffered #1's and full choke. Just like being back in the lead days.


What's the pellet count in that load?


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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:08 am 
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Sorry so late to the party. Here are a couple of patterns with the new bismuth loads. These were fired through a Carlson's extended choke tube. As you can see, the pattern opened up nicely at 30 yards and still maintained plenty of hits at 50 yards. I used this combination all last season and found these loads to be quite effective on ducks. 8)


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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:17 am 
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Here are a couple more patterns fired with a 2-3/4" factory loading through the same choke tube from my V3. Results were similar to the 3" loading both on the range and in the field.


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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:38 pm 
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Thanks for all the replies. Bug Doc, great patterns on this new Kent load... looks nice.

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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:48 am 
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ohio mike wrote:
lossking wrote:
I've never used bismuth before either, but a friend gave me two full boxes of these early Winchester brand Bismuth Cartridge Co. 3" 20ga shells, 1 1/16 oz. #5. I'll probably try them in my 11-87 for early teal season or wood ducks and will likely use a modified choke. I also want to try the new Kent Bismuth 12ga loads.

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Those will be kinda brittle and tend to fracture. The new stuff won't. The new #4 and #5 Bismuth is the ticket for sub gauge Waterfowl. Treat it like lead mod & full are your best friends. {hs#

Does anybody remember what speed these Winchester's were?


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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:21 am 
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The velocity is not marked on the box and I'm unable to Google it up.


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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:51 pm 
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Ya..just says "max"


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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:34 am 
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I've shot a lot of Bismuth loads including the original Bismuth that was then sold to Winchester who basically put a Winchester sticker on some of the original Bismuth boxes. Then Bismaxx and finally the Kent Bismuth.

I can't say that I completely know why but the Kent Bismuth loads are definitely "better" with quicker more dramatic killing ability than the old stuff. I suspect it's in the why the shot is formed but it might be the wads or the powder - maybe all three. Regardless, I could live with Kent Bismuth as my only waterfowl load if I had to.


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 Post subject: Re: New Kent Bismuth Load avail this summer
PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:58 pm 
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I think I patterned Bismuth and Hevi-Shot loads when they were not so expensive. I did hunt with them for a couple of seasons. Some decoy hunts and jumping ducks off ditches. I recall a good day where I'd shot a few ducks and my shooting was pretty good. Good sneaks on the corners. The Bismuth was burger-ing the ducks so bad I was having to give them a head start. 2 3/4" #4's through a modified Winchoke.
I had to give them up when the price went up. I think I spent the difference in price on better decoying, holding still, and shooting them closer with cheaper steel.




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