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 Post subject: Re: 16 GA. ON WILD PHEASANTS
PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:06 pm 
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I like a hammer gun too; one that really “hammers” those roosters at distance



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 Post subject: Re: 16 GA. ON WILD PHEASANTS
PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:16 pm 
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I take it you are a big Semi-Auto 12 gauge fan!

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 Post subject: Re: 16 GA. ON WILD PHEASANTS
PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:25 pm 
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Or a 20 ga 3”. Makes me no difference

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 Post subject: Re: 16 GA. ON WILD PHEASANTS
PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:23 pm 
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Frank Woolner recommended a model 59 win sans the forearm! My two favorite grouse guns were a Browning Superposed lightening 12ga and a Remington 1100 20ga LT.

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 Post subject: Re: 16 GA. ON WILD PHEASANTS
PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:52 am 
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Tukinator,

No doubt about it Woolner was not a traditional type hunter. Many a young Sportsman who read his books followed his advise and used the Semi-Auto guns to bird hunt. I had an 1100 Rem that I used for Duck hunting and some Pheasant hunting in Lancaster County, Pa for a few years, my best friend likes the Semi-Auto and pump guns. I gave him a 16 gauge Rem Model 58 for Christmas one year, he loves the old gun for Pheasant hunting. I have been a traditional type bird hunter all my life and stay with the SXS double guns pretty much, for most all my upland hunting. Each to his own.

We do a lot of teasing here in our mountains, about men who use non-traditional guns to Grouse hunt. Just part of our way of life.

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 Post subject: Re: 16 GA. ON WILD PHEASANTS
PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:29 pm 
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All my shotguns are & have always been SXS, DT guns with one exception. I don't attempt to tell anybody what to shoot but that is what works for me! I was bitten by the jamomatic bug in high school & bought one. That urge wore off in less than 2 weeks & I sold it. That was the only exception to my SXS shooting history. Is a 16 ga. enough gun for pheasant? Sure, I don't know why anybody would doubt that. I like Randy. He is a good guy & we agree on most things but not all things. I killed my first pheasant with my sxs .410 in the late 50's in Wash. state. I also killed a fair amount of pheasants in California when I was stationed at NAS Lemoore between Vietnam deployments. I also loved to hunt valley quail when I was stationed in NAS Miramar. I had my 20 ga. Elsie in Miramar, I had a Bernardelli when hunting pheasant in Lemoore, both 2 3/4 chambered 20 ga. guns. More recently, I have been hunting in N. Dakota. I think a lot depends on the type of shooting you are getting & how you are using your chosen weapon. Yes, there were days in N.D. I was glad I had a full choked 12 ga. but I never felt undergunned with a 2 3/4" 20. I don't doubt the 3" 20 can be effective & put to good use. Two of my 4, 20 ga. SXS's have 3" chambers. The newest has never fired a 3" shell. My old Stevens was bored to 3" & I shot about half a dozen 3" shells through it back in the 80's but haven't had any desire to shoot any since then. My 20 ga. load is primarily 7/8 oz., which has taken plenty of ducks before the steel shot era. Two guns I always wanted & will probably never own are a SXS 16GA. & a SXS 28ga.. Who says you can't load a magnum 16 ga. shell? You can but I have no idea why anybody would want to! The shooting & handling qualities of a gun encompass far more than just the amount of lead coming out of the bore.





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 Post subject: Re: 16 GA. ON WILD PHEASANTS
PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:44 am 
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I don't get to hunt wild pheasant as much as I would like, but when I do, I am carrying a 16 gauge shooting 1-1/8 ounces of nickel plated shot. I don't even own a 12 gauge upland gun anymore. I also don't use 3-1/2" loads for waterfowl, even though some people swear by them.


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 Post subject: Re: 16 GA. ON WILD PHEASANTS
PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:37 pm 
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stubblejumper wrote:
I also don't use 3-1/2" loads for waterfowl, even though some people swear by them.


Same here, I will never use 3 1/2", not even for turkey.

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 Post subject: Re: 16 GA. ON WILD PHEASANTS
PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:15 pm 
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When I was growing up in Ohio in the 60’s, I went hunting with my great uncle and my father. My great uncle would use either a 16 ga s/s or a Winchester Model 12 20 ga, my father used a Browning Auto 5 12 ga and I would use a Mossberg bolt action 20 ga. We would all fill our limit of pheasants.


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 Post subject: Re: 16 GA. ON WILD PHEASANTS
PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:08 pm 
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When I was a kid and hunted wild pheasants, the only gun I had was a 16 gauge with a fixed modified choke. I used that for everything I hunted from rabbits to geese.

For pheasants I always used 1 1/4 oz loads of #5 shot. I don't think anyone makes 1 1/4 oz 16 gauge loads anymore. That's a shame.




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