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stevens 555 compact... as a turkey gun?
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Author:  geometric [ Wed May 06, 2020 12:30 pm ]
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Randy, I've had enough of you and your know it all BS. END OF CONVERSATION! There is fully enough information for anybody out there that is interested to form an opinion. I don't have a dog in this debate to begin with but I find you to be irritating & void of any useful information.

Author:  RandyWakeman [ Wed May 06, 2020 12:53 pm ]
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Oldfarmer wrote:
Nothing better than an ill fitting, lightweight shotgun shooting heavy loads, to two different spots, to slap you hard up side the head and teach you a lifetime lesson. The Stevens 555 compact is the perfect gun for that lesson and it will only cost you a few hundred dollars for that education. Go ahead and round up the electrical parts for your new floor lamp now, you'll want them soon enough.


Add in the aftermarket camo and clumsy, unsightly red dot sight mounting, you have a high-recoil special kind of ugly Frankengun that doesn't shoot to point of aim with any two shots. That's not even a decent-looking floor lamp or goat stop.

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★★★★★
1 out of 5 stars.
very poor choice for shotgun

I bought this shotgun over a year ago and has been a very poor shooting shotgun. The trigger pull is very long with tension, and does not have a crisp break. To translate....nearly impossible to shoot clay pigeon. You pull on the trigger when you want to shoot, but the pull is nearly 1/2" long, and you never know when it is going to go off, by the time it goes off, the pigeon has gone out of range/site, or landed. I sent it back to the factory and told them the issue, Savage factory returned it to me and said it met all inspections and no corrections needed. That is not what I wanted to hear. It is a nice looking shotgun on the rack, which is where it should stay.


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★★★★★
1 out of 5 stars.
The worst what I could buy

The youth model I bought for my daughter has 10lb trigger. Shipped the gun to Savage to be fixed , nothing was done since, I was told that is with in specification. How in the world they can market a youth gun with such a hard trigger???

Advantages:
elusive price and look

Disadvantages:
Useless



Enough unfortunate buyers thought that they could get something usable on the cheap. They know better now.

Author:  geometric [ Wed May 06, 2020 1:31 pm ]
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Right, of all the opinions you site only one has a reference to who's opinion it is & the rest were obviously cherry picked. I wonder if Savage's legal department would be interested in this. This is not an honest evaluation that shows both the pros & cons of a product. You are very talented at posting reams of horsepucks without reference to a source to justify your propaganda. I don't know if you think this is good for your reputation but for me you have lost all credibility. Honest opinion based on facts is fine but you are over the line. There is no room for defamatory remarks, especially when positive evaluations by reputable sources exist! What is your interest in this? Who are you working for & what are you trying to sell? That is where your motivation is born!

Author:  RandyWakeman [ Wed May 06, 2020 1:44 pm ]
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geometric wrote:
END OF CONVERSATION!


Try harder.

Author:  lossking [ Wed May 06, 2020 2:36 pm ]
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FWIW, my brother, a retired biologist with the Montana Dept. of Fish, Wildlife and Parks, has been using a 28ga Stevens 555 with good success on turkeys the last couple of years. Mounted a red dot sight and shoots #9.5 TSS. Said he didn't want to bang up his nice Silver Pigeon 28. How long the 555 will last is anybody's guess, but it's been killing Merriam's Turkey gobblers.

Author:  lossking [ Wed May 06, 2020 4:38 pm ]
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In fact, just got word that brother Ray killed a nice 18 lb. two year old bird this very afternoon with his 555.

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Author:  Multiflora [ Wed May 06, 2020 5:47 pm ]
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The gun in question will, odds on, work...the quality and particulars may be an issue down the two-track or, they may not.
Same for the value received per $$$s spent, which to any individual is unique.

Truthfully, given that a turkey is little more than a squirrel sitting on a stump, not much will fail to work if a well-chosen load and distance is involved. :idea:
Squirrel skin is tough cracker.

Personally tho, the shotgun seems a silly choice for most uses but my esthetics and opinions fit only myself.
Therefore, I'd never make it as a message board pundit ...perched on a stump.

Good luck OP, when the gobble shakes the woods and regardless of the scattergun chosen.
The shot...... is down the list of importance with chasing longbeards.

Author:  bbush [ Wed May 06, 2020 5:56 pm ]
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Actually......
Having two loads, two chokes is not a bad idea at all. Thanks!

Author:  RandyWakeman [ Thu May 07, 2020 3:43 am ]
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painter* wrote:
jacosta95 wrote:
Randy, so far you haven't explained how exactly savage failed. You haven't explained how savage tried to fix or replace it. All you have done is reiterate that they have failed. How do you expect me to trust a source that doesn't explain a failure? It's not logical to do so. I apologize if you took this personal, but it wasn't meant to be.

Far be it for me to try to defend Randy, nor does he need me to, but he actually did explain.

Savage made no attempt to fix the issue and give him a chance to modify his review. Re-read his posts.


Well, I tried . . . but those determined to buy a cheap 555 will live and learn, as always. Maybe.

A gun that doubles repeatedly out of the box is a problem. Savage is forced to import cheap stuff from China and Turkey because that's what people want, the "free lunch."

Oh, yes, Savage replaced it. The buttstock was mismachined, and the H-gated safety stuck in neutral . . . I needed a screwdriver to disengage the safety. I discussed it with the V-P, to see if they wanted to try a 3rd time to get me a shotgun to test that actually worked. The response was sad, "What do you expect for $600, anyway?" I expect a bloody shotgun to actually work, even if for a short period of time, that's what.

Savage failed to provide a shotgun that was safe to fire, or actually would fire in two attempts. Then, they just gave up. Then President and CEO Ron Coburn called me directly about the matter, and agreed with my assessment.

There is a market for crude, untested, shoddily slapped together price-point junk-level fodder, made to the lowest standards by the lowest form of rough machining and essentially non-existent quality control. It is low price, regardless that wins the day.

Junk like this does not come out of an actual Savage Arms plant.

https://answers.fieldandstream.com/foru ... 55-shotgun

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Today I read Phil Bourjaily's comments on the Savage 555 o/u shotgun. He stated that he has had no problems reported to him about this gun. Well if Phil reads this, consider it as a reported problem. My nephew and a friend have the 555. They both have problems with both barrels firing as once. (20gauge&28 gauge) An internet search reveals that this is an on going problem. A phone call to Savage will confirm this issue. They have been sending out replacements on return with a 8-10 week turn around.


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we have a 555 and have had massive problems with it
fires both barrels at once
wont fire at all
last time out fired on closing it and fingers no where near the trigger.\
just now sending back to savage for repair or hopefully replacement


KOFS, Ltd., in Isparta, Turkey is incapable of making a decent O/U. That's called the truth.

Author:  Patently Obvious [ Thu May 07, 2020 7:50 am ]
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The duty cycle of a dedicated turkey gun isn’t particularly tough. I think my wife’s Browning sliver turkey gun with short barrel has gone though a half box of shells in five years. 4-5 for original sight in, a checking shot before each season (sight hasn’t moved yet) and usually a hunting shot during season. Wisco has a one bird limit. Then it goes in the safe to sit until next season.

That said, I’d prefer a single barrel gun for turkeys. A dedicated turkey gun is like a deer rifle. Might as well have a gun that shoots exactly to the same spot with each shot if you are going to the trouble of putting some type of sight on it and I would. A red dot sits on my wife’s gun.

Author:  lossking [ Thu May 07, 2020 8:08 am ]
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Patently Obvious wrote:
The duty cycle of a dedicated turkey gun isn’t particularly tough. I think my wife’s Browning sliver turkey gun with short barrel has gone though a half box of shells in five years. 4-5 for original sight in, a checking shot before each season (sight hasn’t moved yet) and usually a hunting shot during season. Wisco has a one bird limit. Then it goes in the safe to sit until next season.

That said, I’d prefer a single barrel gun for turkeys. A dedicated turkey gun is like a deer rifle. Might as well have a gun that shoots exactly to the same spot with each shot if you are going to the trouble of putting some type of sight on it and I would. A red dot sits on my wife’s gun.


Agree and why, IMO, the 555 is a viable option for turkeys. As a high volume clays or hunting gun, that may be a little dicey.

Author:  Tidefanatic [ Thu May 07, 2020 10:07 am ]
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Patently Obvious wrote:
The duty cycle of a dedicated turkey gun isn’t particularly tough. I think my wife’s Browning sliver turkey gun with short barrel has gone though a half box of shells in five years. 4-5 for original sight in, a checking shot before each season (sight hasn’t moved yet) and usually a hunting shot during season. Wisco has a one bird limit. Then it goes in the safe to sit until next season.

That said, I’d prefer a single barrel gun for turkeys. A dedicated turkey gun is like a deer rifle. Might as well have a gun that shoots exactly to the same spot with each shot if you are going to the trouble of putting some type of sight on it and I would. A red dot sits on my wife’s gun.




Agree. While I know thousands of turkeys have been and can be killed with a bead sight, I became an optics convert when it comes to turkeys. The thought of a 35-40 yard shot using something akin to Kentucky windage with a gun that doesn`t particularly shoot POA/POI gives me the heebie jeebies. As it is, I prefer them closer even with a red dot.

Author:  geometric [ Thu May 07, 2020 11:02 am ]
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Try harder?? I don't believe I am the one that needs to try harder!! The crux of the matter is the attack on the 555 wasn't limited to just Turkey hunting, although some folks seem to do quite well with it. It is an entry level shotgun & all the reviews I saw on it were positive & said it was a good value for the dollar. It isn't perfect but what is? The only fault that came up repeatedly, if you can call it a fault, is it is light for heavy loads. However, it was designed to be a light bird gun. You would think that if a product was as superior as some claim, it could stand on it's own merits without the need to attack a rival product that is in a different category. It obviously was not designed to shoot heavy loads of TSS at 60 yd. birds but not everybody needs or wants that kind of a turkey gun.

Author:  RandyWakeman [ Thu May 07, 2020 1:24 pm ]
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geometric wrote:
Try harder?? I don't believe I am the one that needs to try harder!! The crux of the matter is the attack on the 555 wasn't limited to just Turkey hunting, although some folks seem to do quite well with it. It is an entry level shotgun & all the reviews I saw on it were positive & said it was a good value for the dollar.


Please knock it off. I don't write reviews for other reviewers and couldn't possibly care less what other reviewers have to say.

It wasn't an "attack," it was the truth of what happened. I'm quite comfortable telling the truth, regardless of who likes it or not. No one here, apparently, so much as has a 555 20 gauge, but they want to argue about it anyway.

Quote:
Today I read Phil Bourjaily's comments on the Savage 555 o/u shotgun. He stated that he has had no problems reported to him about this gun. Well if Phil reads this, consider it as a reported problem. My nephew and a friend have the 555. They both have problems with both barrels firing as once. (20gauge&28 gauge) An internet search reveals that this is an on going problem. A phone call to Savage will confirm this issue. They have been sending out replacements on return with a 8-10 week turn around.


Quote:
we have a 555 and have had massive problems with it
fires both barrels at once
wont fire at all
last time out fired on closing it and fingers no where near the trigger.\
just now sending back to savage for repair or hopefully replacement


Quote:
★★★★★
1 out of 5 stars.
very poor choice for shotgun

I bought this shotgun over a year ago and has been a very poor shooting shotgun. The trigger pull is very long with tension, and does not have a crisp break. To translate....nearly impossible to shoot clay pigeon. You pull on the trigger when you want to shoot, but the pull is nearly 1/2" long, and you never know when it is going to go off, by the time it goes off, the pigeon has gone out of range/site, or landed. I sent it back to the factory and told them the issue, Savage factory returned it to me and said it met all inspections and no corrections needed. That is not what I wanted to hear. It is a nice looking shotgun on the rack, which is where it should stay.


Quote:
★★★★★
1 out of 5 stars.
The worst what I could buy

The youth model I bought for my daughter has 10lb trigger. Shipped the gun to Savage to be fixed , nothing was done since, I was told that is with in specification. How in the world they can market a youth gun with such a hard trigger???

Advantages:
elusive price and look

Disadvantages:
Useless



Had these unhappy customers read my review they would have saved time, money and hassle. If you want a glowing review, read a catalog. If you want the truth based on experience, then you can at least consider independent reviews.

Author:  geometric [ Thu May 07, 2020 2:02 pm ]
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Please knock it off??? You are right about one thing, you don't write reviews, you write attacks. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen! Review?? Really??, where do you see a review??

Author:  PoorRichRichard [ Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:08 pm ]
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For what it’s worth, I own a 555 in 20 gauge with the ejectors. I am the second owner, and the guy who sold it to me put approximately 1000 rounds through it. He liked the gun, but could no longer shoot shotguns due to a back/neck/shoulder injury sustained from falling out of a deer stand. I’ve owned it for just over a year, and have used it on about 15 hunts- primarily dove.

I haven’t had any issues with factory ammo after about 600 shells fired (lead and steel). I did have some failure to eject issue with some reloads, but I think that was an ammo issue (shells not properly resized). Lesson learned hear, as I know you shouldn’t shoot reloads you don’t load yourself. My buddy offered me a box of his reloads after I’d run out of my factory ammo at the skeet range, and I just had to shoot one more round...

I have not had the gun double fire on a single trigger pull, and the original owner reported that he never had a double fire issue with the gun.

It is by far the best jump-shooting gun I’ve ever utilized. I think this is due to its very light weight, and dumb luck of just being a good fit to my body.

Recoil is not an issue while hunting with 2 3/4” shells. 3” shells kick like a mule, and I don’t recommend running them. Being that it is such a light gun, I do start to feel the recoil towards the end of the first round of trap or skeet. I’ve recently obtained a 20 gauge Mec and plan on developing a light 3/4oz load for skeet.

Overall, I’m extremely pleased with gun, especially for white-wing and morning dove hunting. I also take great solace in the fact that I got a screaming deal on the purchase. It came with the original five chokes, and additional set of five Briley extended chokes, and a thin Beretta cheek-weld gel pad... all for only $425.

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