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 Post subject: Re: 20 ga #9 shot
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:57 am 
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#8s have fewer pellets but heach pellet his harder. Can't prove which is best but the better shooters seem to all use #9.




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 Post subject: Re: 20 ga #9 shot
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:13 pm 
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Seems like the issue of #9 vs #8 shot comes up repeatedly. If you are shooting for fun/practice and are buying cheapo factory shells (Win Universals, Gun Clubs, etc.) from places like WalMart then your selection is likely to be limited to #8 shot. Shoot 'em up. But if you are shooting registered targets (and don't reload) buy some Win AA's or Rem STS shells, #9 shot.

If you reload (as I do), it's 3/4 oz of #9 for practice, and 7/8 oz for registered targets.

I seriously doubt if you could find a single AAA shooter who prefers #8 shot in the 20 ga.


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 Post subject: Re: 20 ga #9 shot
PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:28 am 
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SWN wrote:

I seriously doubt if you could find a single AAA shooter who prefers #8 shot in the 20 ga.


Good point.


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 Post subject: Re: 20 ga #9 shot
PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:50 pm 
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John Henry wrote:
ShowMe wrote:

But I have had fifteen .99+ year-end averages with the 20 gauge ........


That a fantastic number! How many of them did you make NSSA minimums?


Would love to see your answer on this question....


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 Post subject: Re: 20 ga #9 shot
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:54 am 
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SWN wrote:
If you are shooting for fun/practice and are buying cheapo factory shells (Win Universals, Gun Clubs, etc.) from places like WalMart then your selection is likely to be limited to #8 shot. Shoot 'em up. But if you are shooting registered targets (and don't reload) buy some Win AA's or Rem STS shells, #9 shot.


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But if you have the choice of #8s or #9s, choose #9s.


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 Post subject: Re: 20 ga #9 shot
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:16 pm 
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John Henry wrote:
John Henry wrote:
ShowMe wrote:

But I have had fifteen .99+ year-end averages with the 20 gauge ........


That a fantastic number! How many of them did you make NSSA minimums?


Would love to see your answer on this question....

i would like to also.At least what i see since 2001 2 Times but no minimums


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 Post subject: Re: 20 ga #9 shot
PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:12 pm 
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wrfish wrote:
I need some 20 ga #9 shells and don't see them anywhere.


I see more 20 gauge #9s for sale recently than I have for several years. I just picked up a couple of flats for $4.99 a box and free shipping*.

*I didn't really need them, but at that price delivered I couldn't resist. Oink!


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 Post subject: Re: 20 ga #9 shot
PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:09 pm 
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I just received 2 flats of 20ga #9 from Gander Outdoors $4.99 box with free freight. Search is over for awhile.


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 Post subject: Re: 20 ga #9 shot
PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:03 pm 
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Compromise with #8 1/2..


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 Post subject: Re: 20 ga #9 shot
PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:37 am 
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John Henry wrote:
You’ll have a hard time proving any bird you miss with #8s would have been hit with #9s.


But 99s at the Elite, the U.S. Open, and the World Shoot would irk me and make me doubt the wisdom of #8s. For the the want of a nail.......


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 Post subject: Re: 20 ga #9 shot
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:58 am 
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wrfish wrote:
I just received 2 flats of 20ga #9 from Gander Outdoors $4.99 box with free freight. Search is over for awhile.


I bet they stick in your tubes.


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 Post subject: Re: 20 ga #9 shot
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:54 pm 
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Shot size makes no difference in #7 and smaller except in your head.

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 Post subject: Re: 20 ga #9 shot
PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:32 am 
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ThrowAway wrote:
Shot size makes no difference in #7 and smaller except in your head.


Surely, you jest....

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 Post subject: Re: 20 ga #9 shot
PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:56 pm 
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oldskeetshooter wrote:
ThrowAway wrote:
Shot size makes no difference in #7 and smaller except in your head.


Surely, you jest....


In the context of skeet shooting, I do not. For the average skeet shooter, the most important factor in being successful at breaking birds is shot placement; missed shots where shot size was the cause are statistically non-existent. Now, for professional or competitive shooters who shoot tens of thousands of rounds per year, I could see where shot size, or rather the number of pellets per shell, could play a larger role (while still being a statistical outlier) in missing birds.

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 Post subject: Re: 20 ga #9 shot
PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:22 pm 
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If I still had access to Shotgun Ballistics for Windows I could provide the facts that show #9s are better. Basically you get a bigger "sure-kill core" and a wider, thicker "probably fringe".


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 Post subject: Re: 20 ga #9 shot
PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:36 pm 
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ThrowAway wrote:
missed shots where shot size was the cause are statistically non-existent


Exactly how did you come to this conclusion?


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 Post subject: Re: 20 ga #9 shot
PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:00 pm 
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DEG wrote:
ThrowAway wrote:
missed shots where shot size was the cause are statistically non-existent


Exactly how did you come to this conclusion?

Intuition consequent to witnessing many birds being missed by beginner and middling shooters. I can count on no hands the amount of times I’ve seen someone miss “because you were using #8 shot, but you’d definitely have hit it with #9’s, dude.” Conversely, I’d need a tally clicker to keep track of all the times I’ve seen people (myself included) stop their swing, lift their head off the stock, drop the barrel, and perform numerous other mistakes that almost invariably cause you to miss, regardless of shot size.

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 Post subject: Re: 20 ga #9 shot
PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:48 am 
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#9s rather than #8s are not going to turn a doggy-bag score into a decent score. Maybe not even turn a ho-hum score into a good score. But they can, from time to time, turn a 99 into a 100.

Any single chip break or golden BB break with #9s could be a miss #8s.

If you are competing to win and you are at the level where you can win or loose by a single target, use #9s.


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 Post subject: Re: 20 ga #9 shot
PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:41 am 
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While a miss is a miss with a truly bad shot - there is a reason that nobody shoots 7 1/2 shot when competing on the Skeet range.
Shooting #9 in 20 gauge just makes sense if you are serious about Skeet, and you can get them.
I am not saying that I wouldn't shoot #8, but......
I cannot get #9 in 16 gauge where I live, but I surely load them for Sporting Clays. Most of our Sporting Clays targets are engaged at 30 yards or less.
They are not a magic wand, but why pass up any assistance that you can get.


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 Post subject: Re: 20 ga #9 shot
PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:49 am 
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saskbooknut wrote:
They are not a magic wand, but why pass up any assistance that you can get.


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