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Shooting skeet with 7/8 oz 12 ga shells
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Author:  ShowMe [ Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Shooting skeet with 7/8 oz 12 ga shells

#1 reason is less recoil.

#2 reason, and only if you reload, is cost savings.

Author:  Win50 [ Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:40 pm ]
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dannyd93140 wrote:
New to shotgun shell reloading. Load 7/8 shell now using a WAA12L or CB0178-12 gray wad. Could I use that wad for 3/4 oz. ??


Yes - but you'll probably notice on your crimps are concave in (because there isn't enough shot).

I reload on a single stage MEC, and find a couple cheerios in the wad fills the volume nicely. You'd have to be a little more aware on a progressive, but probably not a big deal once you get the hang of it.

Author:  B.L.E. [ Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:17 pm ]
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Win50 wrote:
dannyd93140 wrote:
New to shotgun shell reloading. Load 7/8 shell now using a WAA12L or CB0178-12 gray wad. Could I use that wad for 3/4 oz. ??


Yes - but you'll probably notice on your crimps are concave in (because there isn't enough shot).

I reload on a single stage MEC, and find a couple cheerios in the wad fills the volume nicely. You'd have to be a little more aware on a progressive, but probably not a big deal once you get the hang of it.

Or, just buy some CB0175-12 wads, made for 3/4 ounce 12 gauge loads. It's essentially identical to the CB0178-12 wad except there's a tiny space consuming bump at the bottom of the shot cup, and it's reddish pink instead of gray. You can also put a 20 gauge card wad into the bottom of the CB0178-12 shot cup to take up the extra room.

Author:  mark-60 [ Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:20 pm ]
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Author:  ShowMe [ Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:55 am ]
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Use #9 shot.

Author:  labloverva [ Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:56 am ]
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If you use a 7/8 oz wad, you will not have any crimp problems. I've loaded 50k of 7/8 8's, 8.5, and 9's, with a Remington hull, and if you do your part you will destroy all targets.
17.3 to 17.5 grains of Clay Dot pushes the load to 1200 FPS.

Author:  BrP [ Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:19 pm ]
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I shoot 1 oz for league and 7/8 oz for practice. I've never noticed a drop in scores or quality of hits when switching between the two loads.

I finished up league last week, and then ran 50 straight after switching back to 7/8 oz.

I used to shoot vectan a24, but switching to vectan AS with a hotter Fed primer now that a24 is no longer going to be available. My first impressions were great. Pretty clean and dusted everything when I did my job.

"Republican" posted a load that I copied, and it worked great for me

AA-HS hull
cb1100 wad (Republican used green duster)
7/8 oz
18gr vectan AS
Fed 209a primer

Author:  DavidRamey [ Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:50 pm ]
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I use 3/4oz 12 ga loads for skeet. Remington hulls, Winchester primers, 700X powder and 3/4 oz of #9 shot.

Author:  kjs [ Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:47 pm ]
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hammontw wrote:
I'm a fan of the 3/4" claybusters. I'm a wuss and don't like a ton of recoil lol.


Thumbs up on the above.

I had a friend who tried and stuck with 3/4 oz 12 gauge loads before I did. I've been shooting it now for a couple of years. The thing about the payload is, if you're on you're on. If you're off, it doesn't matter if you have 2 oz of lead, you'll still miss.

Try 7/8's first but get a bag of 3/4 oz wads at some point and give it a try.

Author:  gaAPD [ Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:11 pm ]
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Serious question for those 12 ga 7/8 oz shooters. I don’t typically go any bigger than 20 gauge as I shoot a tube set in a non-carrier barrel. I don’t log too many rounds of 12 gauge as a result so my question is do you get breaks as hard with 7/8 oz 12 gauge loads as you do with the 1 oz or 1 1/8 oz shells? I would think the reduction in pellets would cause lighter breaks, so does it?

Author:  ShowMe [ Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:16 am ]
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gaAPD wrote:
do you get breaks as hard with 7/8 oz 12 gauge loads as you do with the 1 oz or 1 1/8 oz shells?


Thru the same gun, targets hit with the core pattern of any of those loads will be equally well broken. But the heavier shot-charges will have a larger core, and a better chance of a core-hit.

Author:  BrP [ Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:24 am ]
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gaAPD wrote:
Serious question for those 12 ga 7/8 oz shooters. I don’t typically go any bigger than 20 gauge as I shoot a tube set in a non-carrier barrel. I don’t log too many rounds of 12 gauge as a result so my question is do you get breaks as hard with 7/8 oz 12 gauge loads as you do with the 1 oz or 1 1/8 oz shells? I would think the reduction in pellets would cause lighter breaks, so does it?


I have not had a perceived difference in the quality of breaks.

Author:  lodiwooster [ Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:51 pm ]
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When I shoot 7/8 oz 12 gauge reloads, the 3/4 shooters call'em rhino rounds and elephant ammo; imo, 7/8 and 3/4 oz reloads break the targets very well.
Wooster

Author:  pintailwizard [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:00 pm ]
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The only thing most find is that with .875 you'll generally need to move very slightly tighter with choke to keep the same pattern density. We choke for smoke anyway. Miss or hit. Very few chips or flakes. Miss or hit.

Author:  fmuguira [ Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:49 am ]
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Getting ready to load some 1 oz 1200 fps loads (get away from 1 1/8 oz) to help with cost and recoil.

Shooting a Benelli Ultralight and wondering if the 7/8 oz loads will cycle it? Anyone have any input experience?

Author:  kjs [ Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:43 am ]
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I have a friend who has 2 Benelli's. I think you just have to try it. His Montifeltro (spelling?) will cycle 7/8 great, his M2 struggles sometimes on 1oz and can't on 7/8oz.

Author:  fmuguira [ Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:44 am ]
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Kjs, thank you for input. Just went out this AM and cycle tested 1 oz with 16.5 grs of 700X ....threw the hulls a good 10 feet. Right in the same stack that the 1 1/8 oz loads went!

Pretty certain I can go down and try 14.5-15 grs with 1 oz and 700X... seen receipes for that.

Wish I had 5 or so 7/8 oz wads to try... hate to buy a whole bag and then might not work. Maybe someone at club would sell/give me a few. Unfortunately with this Covid19 I don't know when I ll have a chance to do that. Being in my 60 s I m staying away from folks and being careful!

Thx again for your input.
Frank

Author:  kjs [ Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:47 pm ]
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fmuguira wrote:
Kjs, thank you for input. Just went out this AM and cycle tested 1 oz with 16.5 grs of 700X ....threw the hulls a good 10 feet. Right in the same stack that the 1 1/8 oz loads went!

Pretty certain I can go down and try 14.5-15 grs with 1 oz and 700X... seen receipes for that.

Wish I had 5 or so 7/8 oz wads to try... hate to buy a whole bag and then might not work. Maybe someone at club would sell/give me a few. Unfortunately with this Covid19 I don't know when I ll have a chance to do that. Being in my 60 s I m staying away from folks and being careful!

Thx again for your input.
Frank


Ideal thinking Frank.

If you can't get a small amount locally, send me your address in a PM and I'll send you a box worth. 7/8 oz is truly a great load for a lot of different disciplines. Soft shooting, economical, great breaks if you do your part and you can shoot a bunch in a single day without being worn out by all the recoil.

best wishes

Author:  fmuguira [ Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:25 pm ]
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kjs, thx much for your generous offer. I called a local trap/skeet guy just down the road and they had DR Pink 7/8 oz wads. Boredom got the best of me and I bought a bag of 500 and paid over the phone. Was able to drive over there and they threw them out the front door for me!!

Already tested with manually weighed charges of 700X from 15 grs to 17 grs and the Ultralight cycled them all!! My crimps were a little more dished than I like so going to bore my 7/8 bar from .560 diameter to .575-.580. I can't wait to go shoot some Skeet but might be awhile.

Thx again and stay safe!

Author:  pintailwizard [ Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:06 am ]
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kjs, as long as the speed is around 1300 and the gun is reasonably clean, they'll run just fine.

My Supersport cycles the 7/8 fine, as does the M2. Tried them for kicks in the SuperBlack Eagle and failed.

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