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pknimrod
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Post subject: Re: One or two shells Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:30 am |
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I'm with mtgrs. Minimize open and closing, and minimize the extra use of the lower barrel. Why? Why not? I use RIG grease on my O/U shotguns. Seems to work well. Peter
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randyflycaster
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Post subject: Re: One or two shells Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:54 am |
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Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:45 am Posts: 531 Location: Missoula, MT
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When I was shooting in my first registered shoot, another shooter told me I was holding things up by loading one shell at a time when shooting singles, and that folks will not want to shoot with me if I continue doing it; so I started loading two shells.
I was loading one shell at a time because I wanted to visualize each shot ahead of time.
Randy
_________________ I've had many disappointments in life. Shooting a bad round of skeet is not one of them.
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twohigh
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Post subject: Re: One or two shells Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:52 am |
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Joined: Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:28 pm Posts: 1141 Location: Skeet and Trap Fields
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Ah, you succumbed to peer pressure. If you show up at a shoot they have to squad you. I'd like to have somebody try to tell me that. Man, those guys sound like trap shooters.
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gbcwilliams
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Post subject: Re: One or two shells Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:56 pm |
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Joined: Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:39 pm Posts: 43 Location: Cleveland
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Two of the clubs I belong to that have skeet allow two shells for singles. I've shot at other clubs that do not allow that. I assume that's a safety issue. I load one at a time for singles. Part of my routine and I don't have to change the routine depending on where I am shooting.
_________________ Geoff Home club: Hill n' Dale Beretta SP1 Sporting 12 Beretta A300 12 Orvis Fabarm 20
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double20
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Post subject: Re: One or two shells Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:54 am |
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Joined: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:46 pm Posts: 1717 Location: SW Missouri
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My Dad loads one for singles for a reason that no one has mentioned yet and also may not apply to most shooters. He shoots skeet with an old Ithaca (SKB) O/U that has fixed chokes of Improved Cylinder and Modified. He shoots all the singles with the lower barrel (IC) and only uses the MOD barrel for the second shot on doubles. His theory is that he will break more targets shooting all the singles with the more open choke vs shooting half the singles with the tighter choke. Not sure if it really makes a huge difference but he thinks it does so it helps his "mental" game I guess.
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oyeme
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Post subject: Re: One or two shells Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:17 pm |
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Joined: Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:11 am Posts: 4409 Location: Western Tampa, FL
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International skeet makes this a lot easier since all but #4 is a single target followed by a double. At #4 you shoot a single H and then a single L. You MUST load 2 shells. If you don't it's a loss target-no warning.
ISSF Skeet 9.9.3.4 Cartridge Loading Sequence
a) On Station 8 for both the "High" and "Low" targets, the gun must be loaded with one (1) cartridge only;
b) On Station 4 where two (2) single targets are to be shot, two (2) cartridges must be loaded before calling for the first single target;
c) In case an athlete forgets to load the second barrel in singles on stations where two (2) single targets are to be shot, and after calling for or shooting at the first target remembers and either opens his gun to load or he raises his hand to ask permission of the Referee to load his gun, the target will be declared "LOST;"
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SirSkeetsALot
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Post subject: Re: One or two shells Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:45 pm |
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Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:21 pm Posts: 926 Location: Houston, Texas
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All the clubs in my area allow two.
I load one for singles. Loading a shell is part of the routine and it's a quick reload for the next. Don't think I've ever been guilty of holding up a round.
_________________ Chips O'Toole 260350 635354
Cylinder chokes and 9's
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wrfish
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Post subject: Re: One or two shells Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:53 am |
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Joined: Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:04 pm Posts: 2673
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After reading another subject on this venue (see Too Slow) A squad of five shooters is expected to finish a round in 20 minutes. Can this be done if all five shooters loaded one at a time on singles?
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kyskeet
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Post subject: Re: One or two shells Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:52 pm |
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Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:52 am Posts: 479 Location: Eastern Kentucky
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Personally I'm a two shell loader, but I've seen some pretty fast single loaders. There was a young South African shooter at the world shoot a couple weeks ago in the stadium for shoot offs that had the gun emptied and reloaded before all the broken pieces had stopped moving. Doubt you'll find a five man squad to match him though.
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twohigh
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Post subject: Re: One or two shells Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:01 pm |
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Joined: Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:28 pm Posts: 1141 Location: Skeet and Trap Fields
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Semi-auto shooters who use shell catchers are slower than O/U single loaders. Even if I loaded two in my O/U, I would still take my time and not rush my shots. Not sure if I would be any faster.
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J.Fred_Muggs
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Post subject: Re: One or two shells Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:51 pm |
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twohigh wrote: Semi-auto shooters who use shell catchers are slower than O/U single loaders. Not always.
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twohigh
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Post subject: Re: One or two shells Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:41 pm |
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Joined: Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:28 pm Posts: 1141 Location: Skeet and Trap Fields
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J.Fred_Muggs
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Post subject: Re: One or two shells Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:14 pm |
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Actually there is less movement and fewer actions savings empties with an automatic w/shell-catcher that singl3-loading and saving empties with an O/U. There is no need to open the action with the automatic. The gun does that for you.
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twohigh
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Post subject: Re: One or two shells Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:07 am |
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Joined: Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:28 pm Posts: 1141 Location: Skeet and Trap Fields
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But I don't need to manually pluck the hull out, my ejectors in my O/U does that for me. If we lived near each other I'd challenge you to a race. I shoot with a guy who uses a shell catcher on his 1100 and I know I'm faster than him, and he's a younger guy.
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Rooster booster
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Post subject: Re: One or two shells Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:24 am |
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Joined: Sun Jan 17, 2016 3:34 pm Posts: 5986
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Gents.....the time taken to load one or two shells matters little, to not at all with regard to elapsed time for a round.
Scratching, sniffing, shuffling, practice mounts, practice swings, practice hold points, exorcisms, voodoo, etc., etc.. now that crap is what turns an on pace round into a glacier moving on a cold day.
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J.Fred_Muggs
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Post subject: Re: One or two shells Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:42 pm |
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Rooster booster wrote: Gents.....the time taken to load one or two shells matters little, to not at all with regard to elapsed time for a round.
Scratching, sniffing, shuffling, practice mounts, practice swings, practice hold points, exorcisms, voodoo, etc., etc.. now that crap is what turns an on pace round into a glacier moving on a cold day. The serious time-eaters are those that are not on-deck when the shooter in front of them is shooting. Strolling six to ten feet to the pad after the proceeding shooter finishes his station eats a lot of time. Long breaks between rounds eats time too.
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Rooster booster
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Post subject: Re: One or two shells Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:01 pm |
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J.Fred_Muggs wrote: Rooster booster wrote: Gents.....the time taken to load one or two shells matters little, to not at all with regard to elapsed time for a round.
Scratching, sniffing, shuffling, practice mounts, practice swings, practice hold points, exorcisms, voodoo, etc., etc.. now that crap is what turns an on pace round into a glacier moving on a cold day. The serious time-eaters are those that are not on-deck when the shooter in front of them is shooting. Strolling six to ten feet to the pad after the proceeding shooter finishes his station eats a lot of time. Long breaks between rounds eats time too. Excellent points.
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klayboy
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Post subject: Re: One or two shells Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:32 pm |
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two shells even on low 8 if i'm running a 23 straight onwards to 25.
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J.Fred_Muggs
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Post subject: Re: One or two shells Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:19 am |
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Joined: Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:02 pm Posts: 332
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J.Fred_Muggs wrote: The serious time-eaters are those that are not on-deck when the shooter in front of them is shooting. Strolling six to ten feet to the pad after the proceeding shooter finishes his station eats a lot of time. Math - If the stroll to the station takes 5 seconds, and a shooter does that nine times (twice at station 8 ) he just added nearly 3 minutes. But since birds of feather often do flock together, if you have a whole squad doing that, they've added 15 minutes to their shooting time.
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xsshooter
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Post subject: Re: One or two shells Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:32 am |
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klayboy wrote: two shells even on low 8 if i'm running a 23 straight onwards to 25. That is the only time I load 1 for a single. Couple reasons: I shoot a sk/lm choke combo, so I want that skeet choke for that last shot, probably more mental than anything. I like the habit of loading one when shooting all my station eight targets, don't want a brain fart and load 2 on high 8, again mental. Lastly, when going for my 25th target, I do want to slow myself down just a tad and take an extra breath. I've run a lot of 25s, but still get excited. I also want to make that shot just like my 24th, to keep everything consistent, definitely mental!
_________________ Jim
Eye on the rock, head on the stock.
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