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 Post subject: Chokes
PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:55 pm 
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My name is DL and I’m a clay Clayshooting-Oholic.

With that said I’m a rookie skeet shooter. Use to shoot it 2-3 times a year until one day back in 1999 or 2000 I was invited to join a group of Distinguished gentleman asked me to join in a round of 5 stand. (bob brister ) was one of them. I probably haven’t shot 10 rounds of skeet since. Now fast forwarding to today. I’m teaching my 13 year old daughter to shoot and we are spending 90% of our time on the skeet field learning station per practice session so naturally I’m shooting it as well.

Question - do people generally shoot skeet / skeet or skeet / IC or something other ? And how about Briley diffusion ? I’m not a choke changer in sporting and haven’t switched in like 2 years because LM/IM does it all. But skeet is a close game ( especially station 8 )and I want to set it and forget it... and go back to focusing on the target.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: Chokes
PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:54 pm 
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.005 and .005 in both barrels, for all gauges.

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 Post subject: Re: Chokes
PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:25 pm 
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Cylinder is the choke for skeet. If I remember correctly, Joe Hunter's pattern data (which was posted on here by him) showed that at 20 yards, a Cylinder choke would put 85% of the pattern in a 30" circle. This is even tighter than Extra-Full. Why would anyone think they need a tighter pattern than this?

My pattern data shows over 90% in a 30" circle at 20 yards with Cylinder choke. Choose whatever makes you happy.

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 Post subject: Re: Chokes
PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:16 pm 
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Most, not all, top flight skeet competitors shoot two .005 chokes for regular rounds, especially with 12 or 20 gauge. Two Briley Spectrum skeet chokes are all you need. Don't over complicate it.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:51 pm 
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Ulysses wrote:
showed that at 20 yards, a Cylinder choke would put 85% of the pattern in a 30" circle. This is even tighter than Extra-Full.


This statement makes zero sense. Cylinder choke tighter than extra full? I don't think so.

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 Post subject: Re: Chokes
PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:07 pm 
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Thanks for the information.

Perhaps he was comparing full at 40+.

Any comments on Briley diffusion chokes ?

How about shooting 9 or 8.5 shot for tournaments ?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:32 pm 
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tresamigovizslas wrote:
Any comments on Briley diffusion chokes ?

Waste of money.

tresamigovizslas wrote:
How about shooting 9 or 8.5 shot for tournaments ?


Doesn't make much difference, but you lose more pellets than you realize when you stray from 9s.

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 Post subject: Re: Chokes
PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:57 pm 
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tresamigovizslas wrote:
Thanks for the information.

Perhaps he was comparing full at 40+.

Any comments on Briley diffusion chokes ?

How about shooting 9 or 8.5 shot for tournaments ?

DL


I like the diffusion choke for some sporting clays applications, like close rabbits, but really not the best choice for skeet.


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 Post subject: Re: Chokes
PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:32 pm 
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Here are the pattern numbers I believe Ulysses was referring to. They weren't really skeet loads (not #9s) and distances (other than the 20ga 20-yard patterns), but hope this helps. Of course, the only way to really know how your load/choke combo performs is to pattern them at the distance you use them!

Patterning results from a 20-gauge Browning Citori with 28" Invector-plus barrels and Briley flush chokes (patterns average of five, 30" post-shot scribed circle, yardage taped muzzle to target, and in-shell pellet count average of five).

20 GA 2 3/4" WINCHESTER AA TARGET LOAD
7/8 oz #8 lead (356 pellets) @ 1200 fps
20 YARDS -- CYL / pattern 301 (85%)
30 YARDS -- CYL / pattern 182 (51%)
30 YARDS -- SK / pattern 230 (65%)
30 YARDS -- IC / pattern 257 (72%)

Patterning results from a 12-gauge Browning Citori with 28" Invector-plus barrels and Briley flush chokes (patterns average of five, 30" post-shot scribed circle, yardage taped muzzle to target, and in-shell pellet count average of five).

12 GA WINCHESTER AA EXTRA-LITE TARGET LOAD
1 oz #8 lead (393 pellets) @ 1180 fps
30 YARDS -- CYL / pattern 218 (55%)
30 YARDS -- SK / pattern 256 (65%)
30 YARDS -- IC / pattern 305 (78%)

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:39 pm 
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Ulysses wrote:
Cylinder is the choke for skeet. If I remember correctly, Joe Hunter's pattern data (which was posted on here by him) showed that at 20 yards, a Cylinder choke would put 85% of the pattern in a 30" circle. This is even tighter than Extra-Full. Why would anyone think they need a tighter pattern than this? . . .



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:41 pm 
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Cylinder, skeet or improved cylinder. Any of these will do just fine.


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Skeet_Man wrote:
Ulysses wrote:
showed that at 20 yards, a Cylinder choke would put 85% of the pattern in a 30" circle. This is even tighter than Extra-Full.


This statement makes zero sense. Cylinder choke tighter than extra full? I don't think so.


Sorry for the confusion. I left out a couple of words that would have made my intent clearer. I meant that a pattern of 85% (at 20 yards) is tighter than what is generally considered as "Extra Full" when shot at 40 yard distance. Extra Full at 40 yards is generally considered as about 78% to 80%.

Not many people would consider an 80% pattern to be too open regardless the distance, so an 85% pattern is even tighter. Hope this helps.

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 Post subject: Re: Chokes
PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:13 pm 
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Thanks to all whom answered.

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