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 Post subject: Re: Youth Shotgun for Sporting Clays
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:54 pm 
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An A400 would be a personal preference with being plastic and all. The kickoff doesn’t lesson recoil as much as you would think and it actually throws you off on follow up shots. I personally didn’t like it at all. I wouldn’t think you could beat a Remington 1100 wether in a 12 or 20, or an 11-87 for that matter with a real walnut stock made in the USA, a good long track record. If if they do fail to exist soon, replacement parts will most likely be available for his lifetime.




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 Post subject: Re: Youth Shotgun for Sporting Clays
PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:52 am 
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With my A400 tunnel vision, I honestly hadn't even considered the A300 Outlander Sport with Reduced Length (yielding a LOP of 13"). So now I have to question, from a balance and control standpoint, will the higher weight of the A300 RL and shorter LOP be easier to handle than the lower weight and longer LOP of the A400 synthetic lite? So the conundrum continues, I suppose LOL

Cole Guns has a few listings for A400's with reduced length that fall within my price range. The LOP of the A300 is 13" and the A400 RL @ Cole is 13 1/2" and 13 7/8". I certainly like the price point of the A300, in that I can easily find one less than $1000. But I do fear that he'll quickly outgrow the 13" LOP, though with 2 other boys waiting behind him, that may not be a bad move. As he advances to a better platform and more "adult-size" gun, the other youngins can start getting broke in with the A300.

So honestly, I feel like the A300 Outlander Sport RL is probably going to be the winner. I'll do some work with him this weekend to get some better confidence on proper fit...well, as proper fit as I can accomplish without going all fancy!

...and as a side note, I'm continually disappointed in the overall poor Beretta website. I shouldn't have to crawl all over the internet just to find basic LOP information.


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 Post subject: Re: Youth Shotgun for Sporting Clays
PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:11 am 
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wtp-gc wrote:
With my A400 tunnel vision, I honestly hadn't even considered the A300 Outlander Sport with Reduced Length (yielding a LOP of 13"). So now I have to question, from a balance and control standpoint, will the higher weight of the A300 RL and shorter LOP be easier to handle than the lower weight and longer LOP of the A400 synthetic lite? So the conundrum continues, I suppose LOL

Cole Guns has a few listings for A400's with reduced length that fall within my price range. The LOP of the A300 is 13" and the A400 RL @ Cole is 13 1/2" and 13 7/8". I certainly like the price point of the A300, in that I can easily find one less than $1000. But I do fear that he'll quickly outgrow the 13" LOP, though with 2 other boys waiting behind him, that may not be a bad move. As he advances to a better platform and more "adult-size" gun, the other youngins can start getting broke in with the A300.

So honestly, I feel like the A300 Outlander Sport RL is probably going to be the winner. I'll do some work with him this weekend to get some better confidence on proper fit...well, as proper fit as I can accomplish without going all fancy!

...and as a side note, I'm continually disappointed in the overall poor Beretta website. I shouldn't have to crawl all over the internet just to find basic LOP information.


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 Post subject: Re: Youth Shotgun for Sporting Clays
PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:14 am 
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There's a reason the A300 is in that price range. The quality in the 300 series Berettas ended at the A303.
Read reviews by knowledgeable people on shotguns that have no skin in the game trying to sell you one.


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 Post subject: Re: Youth Shotgun for Sporting Clays
PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:19 am 
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Are those people the same ones who take gifts and gratuities from the firearm companies to write nice things? The A300 is a price point gun. I'll take it over any 1100 that was designed 57 years ago from a company that goes belly up every so often.


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 Post subject: Re: Youth Shotgun for Sporting Clays
PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:37 am 
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A great youth gun is to buy a used 391 , 28" bbl, shorten the stock if need be, nd never look back.


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 Post subject: Re: Youth Shotgun for Sporting Clays
PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:57 am 
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1redvette wrote:
A great youth gun is to buy a used 391 , 28" bbl, shorten the stock if need be, nd never look back.

Joel Etchen has 2 used 390's listed. One a reduced length. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Youth Shotgun for Sporting Clays
PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:49 am 
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Or just buy the full size and have it cut down just enough for his current needs using a thin recoil pad. Then with a thicker recoils pad later, he will probably be able to use the gun as an adult.

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 Post subject: Re: Youth Shotgun for Sporting Clays
PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:48 am 
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Wait 2 years and buy something when he's grown 3" taller and gained 40 lbs. He'll do fine with the Fabarm until then.



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