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 Post subject: Re: NEW Winchester AA Diamond Grade Sporting Ammo
PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:51 am 
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We all know what expert witnesses are. And why they get paid.




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 Post subject: Re: NEW Winchester AA Diamond Grade Sporting Ammo
PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:23 am 
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lt0026..
Again you can have your opinion, others can have there's....


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 Post subject: Re: NEW Winchester AA Diamond Grade Sporting Ammo
PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:44 pm 
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lt0026 wrote:
We all know what expert witnesses are. And why they get paid.


I can assure you that Tom’s opinion can not be bought. And all of the attorney’s dealing with shotgun accidents and crimes know that.

His opinion is rock solid. That is why he gets paid.


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 Post subject: Re: NEW Winchester AA Diamond Grade Sporting Ammo
PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:16 pm 
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Mule Driver wrote:
lt0026 wrote:
We all know what expert witnesses are. And why they get paid.


I can assure you that Tom’s opinion can not be bought. And all of the attorney’s dealing with shotgun accidents and crimes know that.

His opinion is rock solid. That is why he gets paid.


Mule,

Did Tom mention anything about the shot size and consistency in the Diamond loads? I recently saw shot out of one random AA Diamond and it looked horrific.... sizes all over the place, poor copper wash job, oblong shot etc. It could be that the shot is so hard that none of that matters.

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 Post subject: Re: NEW Winchester AA Diamond Grade Sporting Ammo
PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:36 pm 
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I just cut open one oz 7.5
I would say close to 20 pellets are undersize, oversize, ob-long. The ones that had off color were ones out of shape. Still majority measured .094/.093. As mentioned, few others .100/.086
My Lawrence brand magnum 7.5 shot was right on. None that I saw were out of shape. But I'm sure there are some. Shot .094/.093


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 Post subject: Re: NEW Winchester AA Diamond Grade Sporting Ammo
PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:32 am 
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Well I finally got my hands on a case of the 1250fps 1 1/8oz 7.5. Nice shell. Reloads like butter.


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 Post subject: Re: NEW Winchester AA Diamond Grade Sporting Ammo
PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:11 am 
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Everyone is getting this antimony thing all hosed up! You don't need hard shot, just REALLY fast shells, something in the 1,500-1,600 FPS range. After firing, the concussion will break any target out there, game animals insides will turn into mush and fall from the sky! :lol: Sorry I have better things to worry about that 5 or 6%, Go shooting and get off the internet

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 Post subject: Re: NEW Winchester AA Diamond Grade Sporting Ammo
PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:43 pm 
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More marketing hype. They have to do something every few years to keep interest. Same with gun companies.


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 Post subject: Re: NEW Winchester AA Diamond Grade Sporting Ammo
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:09 am 
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Shot a few more of these at the De River Classic. the 1oz version. might be that i'm a sucker for ad copy but i left LM in both barrels for the shoot and these got it done on the longer stuff. Not a good judge of distance so couldn't tell you how far out there were.


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 Post subject: Re: NEW Winchester AA Diamond Grade Sporting Ammo
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:27 pm 
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Picked up a few boxes of these to shoot. When compared to the Standard AA shells I normally shoot, haven't noticed any difference. However, your mileage may vary, and not to mention I'm not that picky. Just my two cents.


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 Post subject: Re: NEW Winchester AA Diamond Grade Sporting Ammo
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:48 am 
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They can't be worth $10.00 a box. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: NEW Winchester AA Diamond Grade Sporting Ammo
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:56 am 
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KRIEGHOFFK80 wrote:
They can't be wroth $10.00 a box. :lol:

If you can compete at the Olympic level, maybe..............
bc

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 Post subject: Re: NEW Winchester AA Diamond Grade Sporting Ammo
PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 2:47 pm 
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ebcjr wrote:
KRIEGHOFFK80 wrote:
They can't be wroth $10.00 a box. :lol:

If you can compete at the Olympic level, maybe..............
bc


Also helps if you're given them for free! I personally wont buy any more of them at $10 a box, but wont ever tell anyone they shouldn't buy them.


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 Post subject: Re: NEW Winchester AA Diamond Grade Sporting Ammo
PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:37 pm 
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i'll be shooting Fiocchi SD 1oz @ 1200 for the majority of targets i see. i just don't see how an extra $3.50 per box on a tourney weekend is a decision factor worth considering. At most i might use 3 boxes if i do the main and a 50 bird FITASC. So $10.50 per tourney times maybe a dozen events if i'm lucky...that just doesn't begin to register on my wife's 'you spend how much to do all this?!' scale.

and that's comparing them to ammo that is darn near the cheapest you can buy!




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