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 Post subject: Pictures for my book
PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:21 pm 
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Since I never took many pictures of my courses at the clubs I worked at, I would like to have pictures of any great terrain and or great stations. I need pictures that are clear and free of copyrights so I can use them without fear of infringing on others. I would like to have the name and club of the person who took the picture and where it was taken. This way, I can give credit to the person and club.

I would like some pictures from Elk Creek in Kentucky. I set a part of the US Open plus four Boomer Esiason's shoots there and thought this was some of the best terrain I had even seen and set in. Also Laini Pines in Hawaii had great terrain. I sure would like a picture of the crater and the platform that went out into it. This not only was a great station but It also scared the crap out of me. I am afraid of heights. I did several instructor schools there. Grouse Ridge outside of Wasilla Alaska also had some great terrain. I worked at this club many times over the years. The Shooting Academy at Nemicolin is another place I set targets and taught. I even set the Hardy Classic once. Mike Mohr was the General manager in those days and gave me a free hand when setting my courses. I changed the original course completely by taking out all of the going away stations and putting in crossers. people told me that it couldn't be done because there was only about 50 feet in between some stations. All I did was curl the target so that it wouldn't crossing in to the next station. Their new course was a good layout and fairly easy to set.

Ben Avery was also a very good open course. They have very little terrain but since I come from an open country with poor terrain and not many trees, I knew how to set in this kind of terrain. I have set target all over the US canada and Old Mexico and I wish I had taken a lot of pictures but I was always too busy to think about doing this. In Artesia and the Whittington Center in New Mexico, I found that I really enjoyed setting targets at these clubs. At Artisa, I really liked all of the people at the club as well as the shooters. The guy's in charge of the club did some great things with their courses. The Whittington Center, the terrain was great. I can't say much for the beds in the cabins though. They were as hard as a rock (LOL) but I sure enjoyed my time there.

One of the biggest clubs I have ever set at was the club outside of Mexico City. This club is called Pachuca Sporting Clays. If you ever get a chance to go there, I will guarantee you will be amazed! I once set the Canadian All Round Shotgun Championships outside of Calgary. I really enjoyed setting here. Also, I set two Scott Robertson World All Round Shotgunning Championships. This was in East Texas and I believed the club was owned by Steve Brown. This was a great place to set targets. There are many more clubs that I set target at and taught (43 of the 50 states) but I can't mention all of them. I don't care where the pictures come from but I wish I had some from all of these places.

Mike McAlpine

I forgot to mention a club that I designed outside of Guadalajara. This was a private club but had some of the best terrain I have ever set in. (Canyons 200 feet deep) It even had two dormant Volcanoes across two of the stations. They were about 20 to 30 miles away. One of them even would blow steam and ash miles up into the air. I was there once when it did this.

Please send the pictures to my email. [email protected] My editor and I will review them and decide which ones to use. I could also use some pictures from previous National Championships. I believe I attended all of them and set a lot of the courses there since 1990. When I quit shooting I lost my run.




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 Post subject: Re: Pictures for my book
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:39 pm 
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I am surprised I don't have any responses to my asking for help. Is there something wrong? I sure hope not because I want to get the book to the printer. I have a few pictures but I would like more.

Thank you for your interest,

Mike Mcalpine
"Inside the Mind of a Target Setter"


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 Post subject: Re: Pictures for my book
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:54 am 
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I've got quite a few pics Mike, but most of them are from facilities I designed across the country. Not sure you want those, but I do have some really good hi-res stuff.

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 Post subject: Re: Pictures for my book
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:16 pm 
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I think it is important that whatever pics you publish actually show your work.

Funny story - many years ago I came across a website promoting a book on marksmanship. One of the pics was a photo of a target I had shot in competition and posted on my personal website. I offered to grant permission to use the pic in exchange for a free copy of the book. Instead, the author became indignant, deleted the pic from the publication, and fired his marketing/website guy.

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 Post subject: Re: Pictures for my book
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:59 pm 
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Tal,

Yes I do want to show my work but I also want to help all setters, now and in the future on setting good targets. I have no problem using things for a great setter like Marty. I am smart enough to understand that while I do know a lot about targets setting, there is some things I might not know. I have always been a person the likes to keep learning. They way to do that is to read, watch and listen to others.

I sure appreciate your comments and there will be a great deal of information from me But as I said, if I find something that I think makes a great point or a good suggestion and will help people to become good setters, I will add it to my book and give the name of the source where I got this information. I know there are some people that think I am cocky but I don't mean it in that way. Some think I am patting myself on the back when I talk about some of my accomplishments. I don't mean to sound like this but as someone who has done a lot of marketing in my life, I think talking about my experience is okay.


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 Post subject: Re: Pictures for my book
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:17 pm 
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Wait, I thought Mike was quitting Shotgunworld for the third time back in the spring?

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 Post subject: Re: Pictures for my book
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:15 pm 
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Sorry Jeff,

If I offended you by asking for pictures for my new book I am sorry. If you look at the number of hits, I think you will find that a lot of people are interested in this book. Yes, I said I wasn't going to post anymore except announcements and anything important. Things like old friends passing or people who helped our sport so when they passed I wanted to acknowledge them. I am wondering if you posted on these things, I doubt it. You remind me of the far left liberals who have been burning our cities and starting fights. Do you support Socialism or want to defund the police? I sure hope not. But if you voted for Biden and Harris, I am very disappointed in you and your character. Stirring the post just to hurt someone's feelings is not the thing to do unless you think it will make you a big man. I commented of Brad's post because I felt that it belittled people from Arkansas and many of these people are my friends. Old Dick even threw in his two cents which is not unusual. Why not become a person that wants to help our country and board heal?

Mike McAlpine

Just a reminder here, I never said I wouldn't post anything. Normally I just send the author of a post or reply or a PM and thank them for helping our sport. If I get attacked (most of the time) I will defend myself because I don't' like anonymous bullies. Now Jeff, I see that you are not one of these so I respect your comments whither I agree or not. Why not just send me a PM and say what you really think. Sounds good to me.

I would bet that I have been in the clay target sports, including sporting longer that you have. I would also bet that I have done more good things for our sports than you ever have too . I give a lot on free advice to anyone who needs is. Also, Because of my wifes health and mine, My income right now is my Social Security check. I used to piss off more money going to clay target tournaments every week than this. Unfortuniatly I can't do this anymore. My prescriptions and doctor copays are more that my Social Security is.

Aidos, for now.


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 Post subject: Re: Pictures for my book
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:33 pm 
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Mike McAlpine wrote:
Do you support Socialism

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My income right now is my Social Security check.


That's some pretty strong words for somebody collecting a check from the Government. Perhaps I will just say "You're welcome".

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