Just curious.... Are you shooting 1 1/8oz or 1 oz.... ? I personally shoot 1 1/8, but recently shot some 1 oz left over from my O/U shooting... I was breaking just as many as the heavier load... but, you just wonder on those you miss... was it the 1/8oz of shot......?
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:51 pm
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jml wrote:
Just curious.... Are you shooting 1 1/8oz or 1 oz.... ? I personally shoot 1 1/8, but recently shot some 1 oz left over from my O/U shooting... I was breaking just as many as the heavier load... but, you just wonder on those you miss... was it the 1/8oz of shot......?
JML
99% of the time the answer is "No" it was not the 1/8 oz of shot. However with the gas gun the recoil on the 1 1/8th is probably not an issue so why not use it if you have it.
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:59 pm
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The only reason I shoot 1-1/8 is because those gold Remington Nitros @1235 come that way; if they offered a 1oz version at that velocity, I'd use that.
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Post subject: Re: Semi-Auto shooters.. 1 1/8 oz...?
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:06 pm
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I have been shooting Sporting for about 16 years. Shoot a 391 Beretta and pretty much exclusively AA Super Handicap 1 1/8 1250 ammo. Registered and practice. I'm not particularly recoil sensitive, so the heavier loads are not problem. My philosophy is, shoot the gun you shoot the best. Keep things (equipment) simple. I very rarely change chokes. Shoot Mod. Am convinced it will break any long distance target we see, including FITASC. There are more pellets in 1 1/8 oz. As long as it's legal, I'll shoot em. Why not ?? If I miss....... it's MY fault !! Not equipment........ever !
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:03 pm
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I get caught up with this as well. Even in the hunting fields. My honest thought is no. If you missed with a 1oz load of 7 1/2 ( roughly 350 pellets) the other 1/8 oz or 40-50 pellets probably wouldn't have mattered. That being said, I shoot 1 1/8 only. So when I miss, or shoot terribly at the trap range. I am reminded that I only had roughly 400 chances to hit the clay or bird... how did i screw that up!!! haha! That's the thing, its my fault in the end.
I hunted a 20ga for 15 years. that is 7/8 to 1oz loads. I am just as successful now as I was then. Makes me wonder why I spent the money on my 12 to start with sometimes.... I guess its my "i am a big boy" gun now.
I use 1oz 8 shot in all my 12 ga guns (870, model 12, SX1) for clay's, they destroy targets.
FITASC shooters have no problem with 1oz loads. If you're worried about pellet count use 8's instead of 7 1/2, there's more pellets in 1oz 8 shot than 1 1/8oz 7 1/2. Still worried about 1oz loads ? tighten your choke up a notch. If recoil isn't bothering you with the SA use what ever makes you happy.
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:14 am
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Properly choked, 1 1/8 oz will give you a bit more effective pattern. When you are off just a little, 1 1/8 will occasionally get you an extra target. When every target counts, use 1 1/8 ounce.
When less recoil or more economy with your reloads is desired, use 1 ounce.
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:56 am
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I shoot Beretta autos-all I ever shot is 1 Oz shells. They will break any Target thrown on registered NSCA shoots. If you miss a Target and think it was because of a 1 Oz shot you are lying to yourself-be true to thy self. Ron
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Post subject: Re: Semi-Auto shooters.. 1 1/8 oz...?
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:01 am
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Woodsie131 wrote:
I shoot Beretta autos-all I ever shot is 1 Oz shells. They will break any Target thrown on registered NSCA shoots. If you miss a Target and think it was because of a 1 Oz sheet you ate lying to yourself-be true to thy self. Ron
So you actually have no experience with 1 1/8 ounce ammo?
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:38 am
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Woodsie, I guess what you are saying is that extra pellet count in 1 1/8 loads is guaranteed to NOT break any targets....................amazing conclusion !!
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:29 pm
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jml wrote:
Just curious.... Are you shooting 1 1/8oz or 1 oz.... ? I personally shoot 1 1/8, but recently shot some 1 oz left over from my O/U shooting... I was breaking just as many as the heavier load... but, you just wonder on those you miss... was it the 1/8oz of shot......?
JML
If you are like most folks that would be a lot of wondering. Use 1oz and choke intelligently for your distances. The probability of a break with a competently placed shot won’t suffer much at all.
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:41 pm
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I have shot Beretta auto's most of the 11-12 years I have been shooting competition clays....mostly sporting. I have shot a lot of 1 1/8 ounce loads over the years. I also am shooting more and more 1 ounce payloads now and when I shoot 1 1/8 ounce, I am running slower loads. 1145 to 1200.
I just bought a new to me CG Summit and will be running mostly 1 ounce through it.
Recoil is not your friend no matter what gun you use. It is cumulative and as we age, I think it effects us more and more. Payload and load velocity both are major factors along with gun weight and proper or improper fit.
Play around with a variety of loads and see what you like and enjoy shooting. I attended a clinic and we were given some really fast 1350 fps 7/8 ounce loads to try and they were pleasant to shoot and broke targets really well.
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