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Which choke for singles trap @ 16 yard line ?
Improved Cylinder 4%  4%  [ 10 ]
Modified 30%  30%  [ 70 ]
Improved Modified 41%  41%  [ 95 ]
Full 24%  24%  [ 55 ]
X-Full 1%  1%  [ 3 ]
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 Post subject: Re: Which choke for singles trap @ the 16 yard line ?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:49 am 
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Rack-N-Roy wrote:
mudpack, I agree with Neil Winston but in reality when there's smoke there's no need for reading breaks :wink:

I agree with you.
Winston's point is that when a target is smoked, most target-readers automatically assume the clay was centered in the pattern. His videos clearly show that's not always the case. In fact, they show that it is NOT the case in the majority of instances.




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 Post subject: Re: Which choke for singles trap @ the 16 yard line ?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:01 am 
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Joe Hunter wrote:
40 YARDS / LM
Win AA Extra-Lite 2 ¾” 1 oz #7 ½ lead (344 pellets) / pattern 260 (76%)
Rem Premier STS 2 ¾” 1 1/8 oz #7 ½ lead (408 pellets) / pattern 277 (68%)

40 YARDS / M
Win AA Extra-Lite 2 ¾” 1 oz #7 ½ lead (344 pellets) / pattern 272 (79%)
Rem Premier STS 2 ¾” 1 1/8 oz #7 ½ lead (408 pellets) / pattern 293 (72%)

40 YARDS / IM
Win AA Extra-Lite 2 ¾” 1 oz #8 lead (393 pellets) / pattern 295 (75%)
Rem Premier Nitro 2 ¾” 1 1/8 oz #7 ½ lead (420 pellets) / pattern 307 (73%)

40 YARDS / LF
Win AA Extra-Lite 2 ¾” 1 oz #7 ½ lead (344 pellets) / pattern 271 (79%)
Rem Premier Nitro 2 ¾” 1 1/8 oz #7 ½ lead (420 pellets) / pattern 309 (74%)

40 YARDS / F
Win AA Extra-Lite 2 ¾” 1 oz #7 ½ lead (344 pellets) / pattern 275 (80%)
Rem Premier Nitro 2 ¾” 1 1/8 oz #7 ½ lead (420 pellets) / pattern 321 (76%)

Good luck!


Great data from Joe!
Notice how it shows the fallacy of comparing only one facet of the collected data. Compare, in each choke group, the percentages vs the pattern density. If you look at only percentages, you'd naturally assume the 1oz. loads would be the most effective loads of the group. Yet, when you compare the actual number of shot in each pattern, the 1 1/8oz loads typically come out on top. I'll take a few more flyers if it means getting a few more shot in the effective pattern. Any day.


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