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 Post subject: new gun or stay
PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:20 pm 
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After a long lay off I have started Trap shooting after a long lay off. I am using a 870 Wingmaster Trap model.
For the last month I am averaging 22 birds. Would a real trap gun help improve my score?

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 Post subject: Re: new gun or stay
PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:04 pm 
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You're already using "a real Trap gun" averaging 22 a round it ain't the gun.

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 Post subject: Re: new gun or stay
PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:37 pm 
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short answer....NO


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 Post subject: Re: new gun or stay
PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:25 pm 
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For a short answer, getting your gun set up properly will help your scores. First thing is to make sure you can get a consistent mount. Then pattern the gun to establish POI vs POA. Google "Winston 13 yards Shotgun" That will tell you what you need to know to do that.

Adjust your comb height so you get about 2 inches high at 13 yards. That is a good place to start. Then stand on post 3 with the trap locked for straights and adjust up or down(use add on pads if your comb doesn't adjust) until you are breaking the targets with solid hits.

You can spend $10,000 on a trap gun and if it doesn't fit or isn't adjusted properly the guy with the 870 that does and is will kick your butt every time.


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 Post subject: Re: new gun or stay
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:13 am 
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Personally, I’ve always been a 95% Indian, 5% bow guy when it comes to misses.

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 Post subject: Re: new gun or stay
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:38 am 
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hopper810 wrote:
You're already using "a real Trap gun" averaging 22 a round it ain't the gun.


^^This^^

A very good trap shooter told me that the first 21 or 22 are in the form, hold points, and look points. The last 3-4 are between your ears.


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 Post subject: Re: new gun or stay
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:32 am 
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If your at average and want to improve, you are looking for those 2 or 3 targets per trap. If your serious about it and willing to invest in better equipment. Well sir....welcome to trap shooting.

Not that the 870 can't be a trap configuration or capable of shooting winning scores, but .....
Maybe a better trigger, reliability, less recoil, prestige and quality is the ticket to what your looking for. There are many of us more serious trap shooters that started with a Remmy 870 or 1100 to buy and trade up to Krieghoff(for me) Pgun, Lgun, Agun, or the Bguns in between. Its more about what will please you and being able to budget that kind of money on a hobby.

I know shooters that carry a 870 trap to the line and do well, others that have one in the truck and call the 870 their rain gun, still others that add 2 to 3 thousand dollars to a 870 in custom wood or engraving.

This decision is about you, not anyone here.

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 Post subject: Re: new gun or stay
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:09 am 
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Thanks to all,you have helped me make up my mind


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 Post subject: Re: new gun or stay
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:37 pm 
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You here a lot of BS stories about the guy with a low cost gun who beats someone with an expensive gun.
In the case of the 870 though it may be a true story.
It doesn't get more real than an 870 Trap. Just more expensive.

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 Post subject: Re: new gun or stay
PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:08 am 
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the musical gun game will put you in the poor house and ruin a marriage.

then again, its what the gun industry wants you to believe.
new gun new ammo new shooting jacket new glasses new new new..........don't fall for it.
go shoot and have fun with that 870 until it falls apart. THEN....... buy a new gun.

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 Post subject: Re: new gun or stay
PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:19 pm 
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"You here a lot of BS stories about the guy with a low cost gun who beats someone with an expensive gun.'

You ever hear of Devon Harris? Google "Devon Harris Trapshooter Model 12"


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 Post subject: Re: new gun or stay
PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:28 pm 
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madfmax wrote:
Thanks to all,you have helped me make up my mind


What did you decide, if you don’t mind saying?


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 Post subject: Re: new gun or stay
PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:33 pm 
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I've seen guys get new hardware only to shoot worse with it

we have one guy on the squad who is always in the 20s, usually a 23-24 and I told him don't change a thing until after the league is over, I think he shoots a winchester trap pump gun


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 Post subject: Re: new gun or stay
PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:40 pm 
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I vote new gun. Hey, you never know until you try it. Yes, there are great shooters with a 870. But... go a large trap shoot and see how many 870's you actually find on the line. And Do Not Sell the 870. Keep it and buy the new gun outright.

Me, I am happy if I break 22. But I am not aspiring to be a better trap shooter. And I know the gun I shoot can do better. I know it is me.


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 Post subject: Re: new gun or stay
PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:30 pm 
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I miss my 870 TB. I will get another one.
I have already bought a 30" step rib 870 Target barrel for it when I get one.
Along with the 3 Browning Trap models I have owned it was the most fun to shoot.
Take Bill M's advice. Don't sell the 870.

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 Post subject: Re: new gun or stay
PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:19 am 
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Canerod wrote:
A very good trap shooter told me that the first 21 or 22 are in the form, hold points, and look points. The last 3-4 are between your ears.

Truer words were never spoken.
An expensive trap gun might make you feel better, but it won't necessarily make you shoot better.


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 Post subject: Re: new gun or stay
PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:51 pm 
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"won't necessarily"

Many things in life won't necessarily improve. But we still hope and try. And I agree with your statement 100%.

If you can easily afford it buy the gun. If you cannot, don't.

I have to ask, how good did you shoot before your long layoff? And were you shooting the 870 then? Have your eyes changed? Are you pretty old now? Do you see the birds well? Do you shoot on different ranges or the same one all the time? Are you trying too hard to break a certain number of targets? So many variables to contend with.


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 Post subject: Re: new gun or stay
PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:47 am 
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Sometimes getting a new gun may garner you a couple of more targets by forcing you to focus more. The again it may cause you to lose a few because it just doesn't feel right.

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 Post subject: Re: new gun or stay
PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:43 pm 
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Bill M. wrote:
Many things in life won't necessarily improve. But we still hope and try.

If you can easily afford it buy the gun. If you cannot, don't.

And I agree with you 100%.




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