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 Post subject: Re: Any reason to avoid extractors in place of ejectors?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:59 pm 
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Serious question...if 80% of the service issues with the Brownings are ejector related, why in the world would one purchase a gun like that? Again serious question...


Are you thinking that 80% of the Brownings break an ejector?.....


No. T-Pee mentioned he was waiting on his Citori and while doing so he did some research that mentioned the 80% number. It's just interesting to me the those would be an "issue".



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 Post subject: Re: Any reason to avoid extractors in place of ejectors?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:22 pm 
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He’s saying of the .0000001% of the Citoris that ever have an issue, 80% of those few times it’s an extractor problem.

I think people using the wooly mop brass snap caps put undue strain on extractors. The extractors are designed to launch an empty hull that has little resistance.


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 Post subject: Re: Any reason to avoid extractors in place of ejectors?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:46 pm 
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In my opinion, ejector problems are not all that common on Browning Citori shotguns. However, ejector problems are quite common on the Browning Cynergy shotguns. The Cynergy ejectors are poorly designed, IMO.

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 Post subject: Re: Any reason to avoid extractors in place of ejectors?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:48 pm 
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DanG wrote:
I open the gun with my thumb over the breech to stop them from launching. Then I pick them out same as with an extractor gun. If I'm hunting and need a quick reload, I let them fly.

Same here, except I open the gun with my right index finger over the breech.


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 Post subject: Re: Any reason to avoid extractors in place of ejectors?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:20 pm 
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bbush wrote:
Speaking of ejectors..... can ANY O/U that has ejectors be easily converted to extractors only?? Same question for SxS’s. Or is it a case of “ depends on brand / model “??
Always wondered and now seems like a good time to ask.

I opened up my Browning BSS to take a look. Very small but powerful springs running the ejector hammers. I decided to leave this one alone.

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 Post subject: Re: Any reason to avoid extractors in place of ejectors?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:02 pm 
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bbush wrote:
Speaking of ejectors..... can ANY O/U that has ejectors be easily converted to extractors only?? Same question for SxS’s. Or is it a case of “ depends on brand / model “??
Always wondered and now seems like a good time to ask.


Seems like it differs with guns from what I have been finding out, For example a browning Citroi you can just replace the springs with 1911 spring ( under the browning forum on this site it explains the process on a pinned post) but for a Beretta there are a few ways none of which seem as simple and most involve machining (maybe a weaker spring would do it as well, but no info on people testing it, I might give it a go since I have a 687 that I would for now at least prefer it to extract.)


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 Post subject: Re: Any reason to avoid extractors in place of ejectors?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:18 pm 
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You can't look nearly as kool with extractors as you can with ejectors

All really very simple when you focus on the important stuff


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 Post subject: Re: Any reason to avoid extractors in place of ejectors?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:17 pm 
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George Z wrote:
But that said is there a functional, price, or any other reason that I would want to avoid getting a gun with extractors? Thanks


The choice of extractor or ejector is purely based on personal preference.
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 Post subject: Re: Any reason to avoid extractors in place of ejectors?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:12 pm 
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Ulysses wrote:
In my opinion, ejector problems are not all that common on Browning Citori shotguns. However, ejector problems are quite common on the Browning Cynergy shotguns. The Cynergy ejectors are poorly designed, IMO.


I’m curious what type of problems do you find with Cynergy ejectors? I’ve long since converted mine to extractors but am curious what problems you’ve encountered.


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 Post subject: Re: Any reason to avoid extractors in place of ejectors?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:47 am 
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I have two SXSs that have ejectors. The first gun has them disconnected so they work like extractors. The second gun is still as it left the factory. Ejectors can be a nuisance if you are trying to save your empties for reloading. Especially if you hear that "sploosh" when they hit the water. On the other hand, they can save enough time to kill that second roster you didn't have time to shoot at with extractors. That has proven to be wishful thinking much more often than it has happened to me in practice but when birds are flushing, who gives a flip about empties!


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 Post subject: Re: Any reason to avoid extractors in place of ejectors?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:03 pm 
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Wowzer wrote:
Ulysses wrote:
In my opinion, ejector problems are not all that common on Browning Citori shotguns. However, ejector problems are quite common on the Browning Cynergy shotguns. The Cynergy ejectors are poorly designed, IMO.


I’m curious what type of problems do you find with Cynergy ejectors? I’ve long since converted mine to extractors but am curious what problems you’ve encountered.


I haven't personally encountered ANY problems with Cynergy ejectors because I've never owned a Cynergy shotgun. However, I have seen other shooters at our club have a broken ejector on a Cynergy, and I've read about the same thing numerous times on this board.

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 Post subject: Re: Any reason to avoid extractors in place of ejectors?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:16 pm 
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Ulysses wrote:
I haven't personally encountered ANY problems with Cynergy ejectors because I've never owned a Cynergy shotgun. However, I have seen other shooters at our club have a broken ejector on a Cynergy, and I've read about the same thing numerous times on this board.


My local range has a number of Cynergy guns. They don’t report problems with the ejectors. Too bad there’s no website that logs all gun related problems, like trudelta for cars.




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