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 Post subject: 7/8oz #9 at the 16 yard line.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:40 am 
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I went to the range a couple weeks ago to shoot 2 rounds of trap and 2 rounds of skeet. I decided just for the heck of it to try some of my skeet loads at the 16 yard line. 7/8 oz of #9 and they were smoking them and very nice to shoot as well. Could not tell the difference between them and the 1 1/8 oz of 7 1/2 shot I normally shoot except for recoil. Anybody else shoot 9's in trap?




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 Post subject: Re: 7/8oz #9 at the 16 yard line.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:06 am 
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Not a trap shooter, mostly skeet. My go to load for skeet is 3/4oz #8.5's...the few times I've shot trap, that's the load I use and break the same amount of targets every time...which is a dismal number

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 Post subject: Re: 7/8oz #9 at the 16 yard line.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:14 am 
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For a shooter who shoots relatively quick and with a medium to tight choke, then 9's will do the job from the 16 yard line if the shooter puts the pattern on the target.

However, if the shooter rides the target out to its peak and tries to "rifle shoot" it, then 9's won't work well at all. For that type shooter, #7 1/2 shot works best.

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 Post subject: Re: 7/8oz #9 at the 16 yard line.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:44 am 
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One of the Old Timers at our club uses 7/8’s of nines at 16. The birds break just fine. But I have never understood why he bothers.


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 Post subject: Re: 7/8oz #9 at the 16 yard line.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:03 am 
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I can't vouch for 9's but my 7/8 oz of 8's have produced several 25 straights from the 16 yd line .
These that I load are 1200 fps loads in a tapered hull , I shoot them through a IM (.025) choke
and they allow me to concentrate on centerpunching each and every target . I'm not what you
would call a fast shooter but , I do shoot the target on its way up ! My objective is to shoot all
my targets at the same height , with the same move and consistency !
And not be warn out for where the , likely , money is .


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 Post subject: Re: 7/8oz #9 at the 16 yard line.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:03 am 
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I was thinking of loading 7/8 oz of 8's and trying that. I use an IM choke. Thanks all.


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 Post subject: Re: 7/8oz #9 at the 16 yard line.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:34 pm 
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7/8 oz is fine but in my experience 8's will serve you better than 9's.


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 Post subject: Re: 7/8oz #9 at the 16 yard line.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:29 pm 
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golden wrote:
7/8 oz is fine but in my experience 8's will serve you better than 9's.


That would certainly be my choice if I was set on 7/8 loads for Trap.


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 Post subject: Re: 7/8oz #9 at the 16 yard line.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:55 am 
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Location: somewhere east of the I-95 corridor, until you get to connecticut. but you can bank on vanzant, mo..
anything will work. the question is, if youre competing, would you gamble a championship on it?

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 Post subject: Re: 7/8oz #9 at the 16 yard line.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:29 am 
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If your shooting fun targets anything will work ok. If your shooting serious targets, want is ruled as a max load will work better. Trap is a one target game in competition. 1 target in every class, category, and championship. Even shoot offs determine winners with that one target.

So at your state trap shoot. The Saturday singles champ shot a lone 200 straight and you shot a 199 with 7/8s oz loads. That will get in your head. Next time my bet is you will be using 1 1/8 oz - 2 /34 dram 8's. Taken recoil out with better gun fit and weight.

Competitive trap is a mental game more than equipment. A game of perfection.

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 Post subject: Re: 7/8oz #9 at the 16 yard line.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 4:31 pm 
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Thanks to all.
I have been shooting trap for about a year now and so far I just shoot for fun. If I ever did shoot an ATA event I would most certainly go with the 1 1/8 oz load. As a matter of fact I only shot that skeet load that one time just to see how they would do. That day I shot 3 rounds of singles a 23/25 and a 24/25 with 1 1/8 oz of 7 1/2 shot and a 23/25 with the 7/8 oz 9 shot. Sunday I went out and shot 2 rounds of singles with 1 1/8 oz 7 1/2 shot and shot a 20/25 and a 24/25. I can't seem to get that elusive 25 straight.
I just started reloading and am having a fun time with it. Thanks again


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 Post subject: Re: 7/8oz #9 at the 16 yard line.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:59 pm 
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I don't think, or would I use, 1 1/8oz loads if I were shooting registered trap at the 16 yard line. Bunker trap is much harder and they're limited to 7/8oz [ or something close to it for you nit pickers ]. FITASC a couple years back went form 1 1/4oz loads to 1oz loads - scores went up. Well, imagine that, they went up. How's that possible when less shot was used ? IMHO, 7/8 or 1oz will break anything 1 1/8oz will with less recoil. Recoil is cumulative and effects scores. How about 7/8oz loads, change the pin setting on the machine to the forth hole [ wider angles ] , watch the whining start, and make it so there aren't so many marathons. Put a little fun back in the game.

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 Post subject: Re: 7/8oz #9 at the 16 yard line.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:10 pm 
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"I don't think, or would I use, 1 1/8oz loads if I were shooting registered trap at the 16 yard line."

You would find D class to be very competitive.


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 Post subject: Re: 7/8oz #9 at the 16 yard line.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:19 pm 
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9’s work ok from the 16.
Several have gone to 7/8 or 1 oz of 8’s for trap ( 16 yd ( or 1st shot on trap doubles ). Same load works for the majority of sporting clays shots and skeet too. The 1 oz of 8’s is a pretty handy load.


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 Post subject: Re: 7/8oz #9 at the 16 yard line.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:30 pm 
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bladesmith wrote:
IMHO, 7/8 or 1oz will break anything 1 1/8oz will with less recoil.

Not a fact.
1 1/8oz loads will break more birds, over the long haul, than 7/8oz loads will.....for the same reason that 7/8oz loads will break more birds than a 1/2oz load will.


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 Post subject: Re: 7/8oz #9 at the 16 yard line.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:24 am 
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Volume of shot is about human error. Even the best shooters error occasionally. Non of us keep the target in the middle of the pattern every shot, always leaving a few either hit by the fringe of the shot cloud or a complete miss. The difference would be those targets poorly pointed and in the outside edge of the shot pattern. More shot in the payload leaves more shot at the edges to break error targets.

To crush a target it takes 6 or more shot hitting the target and I have picked up targets scored loss having 4 or more holes. If you pattern on a board at target distance it becomes obvious how important choke selection, payload and shot hardness is. If your one that considers a chip equal to a smoked target based on how it was scored, will never get past average.

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 Post subject: Re: 7/8oz #9 at the 16 yard line.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:17 pm 
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So what you're saying is you rely on the fringe BBs breaking the bird ? :s That way when you chip one you'll know where you were off. {hs#

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 Post subject: Re: 7/8oz #9 at the 16 yard line.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:07 pm 
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Been shooting Trap for a little over 25 years, over that time I've tried many different loads, and speeds. I finally settled on a 16 yd load with 1 1/8 oz. 8 1/2 w/ an 8 pedal wad going about 1160 fps through an IM .25 choke. It has gotten me numerous 100's and a high A average. When you find your favorite load, stick to it, you've experimented enough, now just enjoy the game.




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