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 Post subject: Charles Osborne sxs shotgun circa 1900?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 9:55 pm 
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Does anyone have any history about Chas. Osborne who was a Birmingham/London gunmaker? I have a 12ga. 2.5" sxs ejector shotgun with 28" barrels and M+F chokes. The gun is a high grade with very elaborate deep fine scroll full coverage engraving with a gold 1 on the receiver, barrels and forearm. The wood is a very high grade French or Italian Walnut, straight grip, small forearm. The proof marks indicate manufacture 1896-1904. It was reproofed after 1955 also in England. Condition is exceptional for a 100 year old gun. Anyone who has info or can point me in the right direction, I would very much appreciate it!
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 Post subject: Re: Charles Osborne sxs shotgun circa 1900?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 11:54 am 
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From, internetgunclub.com

Charles Osborne was established in 1838 as a gunmaker and factor at 1 Litchfield Street, Birmingham.
He moved in 1854 to 12 & 13 Whittall Street and traded as C Osborne & Co.
In 1858 he was appointed Guardian of the Birmingham Proof House.
In 1871 he died at the age of 72.
The business appears to have traded also as a partnership (although it was only recorded as such in 1884) between Charles Osborne (Jnr), Charles Francis Ellis and E W Wilkinson, and the partners seem to have traded in their individual capacities as well.
Charles Francis Ellis was recorded at 12-13 Whittall Street from 1873 to 1875, and Charles Osborne Ellis was recorded there from 1877 to 1882. Charles Osborn Ellis was probably Charles Francis's son - the Osborne and Ellis families were obviously inter-related.
An office and shop were opened at 3 Broad Street Buildings, Broad Street, London, they were recorded from 1881 but probably opened in 1879 when the company were appointed agents for Remington Arms Co, a position they held until 1911.
In 1884 (when the partnership was recorded) Charles Osborne (Jnr), Charles Osborn Ellis and E W Wilkinson were granted patent No. 8402 for a drop-down barrel action.
In 1885 the London shop moved to 7 Whitehall Place and further shops were opened in Edinburgh at 47 George Street and Glasgow at Blythswood Square.
In 1887 the firm obtained patent No. 7222 for another drop-down barrel action, and in 1888 patent No. 11970 referred to punt guns and sliding block actions.
By 1889 the firm's Birmingham factory also occupied 14 Whittall Street; in that year Ellis and Wilkinson (trading as Charles osborne & Co were granted patent No. 11879 for a self-cocking sliding-block action for punt guns.
In 1892 the London office moved to 2 Great Scotland Yard.
In 1895 the firm took additional premises at 16-17 Sand Street, Birmimgham.
In 1896 they became a limited company.
In 1898 a patent was taken out with W Jerman for another punt gun with a sliding lock action.
In 1908 the London office moved to 10 York Buildings.
In 1909 Osborne and Ryland patented a modified Anson & Deeley action.
In 1928 the London shop closed. It was probably at this time that the Glasgow and Edinburg shops closed.
Some records say the firm closed in 1930, other (less reliable?) sources say "during the Second World War".
The firm were prolific manufacturers of guns, rifles and pistols for the South African and Indian markets; their range of large bore big game rifles particularly double rifles was one of the widest available.


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 Post subject: Re: Charles Osborne sxs shotgun circa 1900?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:44 pm 
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2563:
Thank you so much! I tried for hours and hours to get any info at all and came up empty handed!
Best Regards,
Rick


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 Post subject: Re: Charles Osborne sxs shotgun circa 1900?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:45 pm 
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Are these good guns? Or are the more common names such as Jeffery, Lang, Greener, W.C Scott better built?


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 Post subject: Re: Charles Osborne sxs shotgun circa 1900?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:21 pm 
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Grousegunner89 wrote:
Are these good guns? Or are the more common names such as Jeffery, Lang, Greener, W.C Scott better built?


There were many "less known" english gun makers back in the day who could rival the quality of the above named makers.




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