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 Post subject: Re: BROWNING A5 DISASSEMBLY
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:46 pm 
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Mineral spirits is a lot cheaper than Hoppes.

Did you find the problem during disassembly?




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 Post subject: Re: BROWNING A5 DISASSEMBLY
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:22 pm 
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I've got some odorless mineral spirits, I hadn't thought about that for gun cleaning. I'll give it a try.

I do use it on stocks, and this one really needs it. A previous owner glopped varnish all over it, even on the metal tang that extends behind the trigger. Not only that, but there was a leather recoil pad thing tied onto the end of the stock, covering half the stock, and they applied the varnish up to the leather, but not under it. I'll have to sand it down and refinish it.

The rear stock, especially around the grip, seems as if it's been sanded and ground to reduce its width. I don't know if they just made stocks that way 92 years ago or if this one has been customized, but the serial number inside the stock does match the other numbers. So I do want to try to preserve it.

I'm still not certain why the bolt would not pull back. The action spring may have been hung up, but I don't know. Everything just kind of flew out once I removed that small lateral pin from the center of the bolt. I should have taken the action spring out first, but I didn't. Won't do that again!

It really does amaze me how well these guns were made back then. The thought and design and machining is amazing.


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 Post subject: Re: BROWNING A5 DISASSEMBLY
PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:43 am 
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DallasCMT wrote:
I'm still not certain why the bolt would not pull back. The action spring may have been hung up, but I don't know. Everything just kind of flew out once I removed that small lateral pin from the center of the bolt. I should have taken the action spring out first, but I didn't. Won't do that again!

It really does amaze me how well these guns were made back then. The thought and design and machining is amazing.


That made me smile! Hope you found all the parts...

The quality and craftsmanship that went into these guns got me hooked. Good luck with your
first Auto-5 project!


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 Post subject: Re: BROWNING A5 DISASSEMBLY
PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:48 pm 
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Curious, the Remington model 11 looks just like the A5, I assume it was licensed to be build by Remington for a period. Well, my aunt has one and it's also a 16 ga.

So are the 11's and A5's the same, screw for screw? I don't have the 11 here in front of me.


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 Post subject: Re: BROWNING A5 DISASSEMBLY
PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 11:24 pm 
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When the Remington Autoloading Shotgun (changed to Model 11 in 1911) was introduced in 1905 it was almost identical to the FN produced Auto-5 of 1903. Probably the biggest differences were due to the Belgian gun being metric. But the guns evolved separately, with the Auto-5 having only minor changes from 1909 to 1951. The Remington kept many of the original features until 1928 when they did away with the "suicide safety". Remington changed the firing pin and bolt design several times along the way. The biggest practical difference is that the Browning's have a milled area at the rear of the receiver and the Remingtons don't. Hand cycling the gun by pushing down on the barrel can cause a Remington to fire when the firing pin hits the back of the receiver. There's supposed to be a buffer in there but there's a good chance that it's missing.

In 1909 John Browning redesigned the Auto-5 for the 16 gauge shell, shortening the receiver to save weight. Remington just scaled the gun down when their 16 came out in the '30's.

The changes to the Auto-5 were documented by Martin "Sauerfan" right here on ShotgunWorld. In Slim's words, "he made us all experts".

viewtopic.php?f=53&t=216472


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 Post subject: Re: BROWNING A5 DISASSEMBLY
PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:49 pm 
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I really enjoy this thread, I think I've read it a couple of times. I disassembled the new-to-me '53 tonight...of course wifi was acting up and I couldn't watch the videos. Just winged it, still need to take the bolt apart. This is well used gun and it is filty, "soot" is a good term for the gunk and dried grease in the action spring and throughout. Noticed the stock is cracked on one of the flats forward of the wrist.

Will be reasearching to fix the crack in the matching # stock and order new springs all around. The recoil spring is at least an inch and a half shorter than the one from the '67, and I have no idea that of that spring's life. The action spring is right at 13"

And I definitely won't be winging it on reassembly. I also noticed how mych crisper the details and machining are on this than the '67.


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 Post subject: Re: BROWNING A5 DISASSEMBLY
PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:48 pm 
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I have a brand new BRowning A5 Japan model. I need to replace the safety to a right handed model. I have the safety already. Anyway, I can't for the life of me get the stock screw out. It's so GD tight. I have the browning screwdriver set, but I am terrified of it slipping out and scratching the stock. It already popped out but I have tape all over it so I was OK.

Anyway, this screw is indexed, and I have no clue why or how its so tight but it has taken all I can to turn it. It won't budge. I even think my screw driver set is started to 'twist'. I don't want to damage it and I am thinking this needs to go to a smith.

Any ideas?


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 Post subject: Re: BROWNING A5 DISASSEMBLY
PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:35 am 
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FullChokedChicken wrote:
ok guys this is a question for the world of browning guys i have a 1941 browning 16ga youth a5 on the link at the top of this fourm it goes into detail on page 13 to remove the bolt carrier group in the first pic to remove the pin using a punch through the ejection port......well mine is missing the cut at the edge of the port???? plz help! :x


This is a wonderful thread for Browning A5 lovers. Thank you.

I have recently been trying to clean up 14 shotguns from my grandfather's vault, all being Browning (FN) A5 12ga with Aluminum/Alloy Receivers. It has wrinkle paint coating on it, no engraving. I assume these are the ultralight/superlight version?

I tried to clean all of the shotguns as much as I can, they have not been touched for the past 45 years. I found that 6 of the shotguns have cracked receiver where the magazine tube is threaded. :(

Come the question I have that is similar to an earlier post is.... that my receiver does not have a hole to put a punch through to remove the bolt locking pin. I am stuck at this step (step 25 on page 13th in the PDF instruction). I have tried to search for answers from many places and going to the local gunsmith without success.

Some gunsmith even recommend that I just drill a hole. To me, that really cannot be a solution because if these parts could go in at the first place, there must be a way to remove the bolt. Can any expert please provide a clue to how I can remove the bolt from the receiver, please!

Also, anyone that successfully weld the alloy cracked receiver, please kindly share you technique and experience. Thank you.

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 Post subject: Re: BROWNING A5 DISASSEMBLY
PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:08 pm 
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This has come up before, I believe the answer is to remove the Shell Stop and try to punch it out from there. If you’re successful, please share your experience!


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 Post subject: Re: BROWNING A5 DISASSEMBLY
PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:17 pm 
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Agdodge4x4 wrote:
I have a brand new BRowning A5 Japan model. I need to replace the safety to a right handed model. I have the safety already. Anyway, I can't for the life of me get the stock screw out. It's so GD tight. I have the browning screwdriver set, but I am terrified of it slipping out and scratching the stock. It already popped out but I have tape all over it so I was OK.

Anyway, this screw is indexed, and I have no clue why or how its so tight but it has taken all I can to turn it. It won't budge. I even think my screw driver set is started to 'twist'. I don't want to damage it and I am thinking this needs to go to a smith.

Any ideas?


In watching one of Art's videos on disassembly of the A5 he specifically comments on how REALLY TIGHT the stock screw is on the JAPAN models.
Other than getting a proper fitting larger handle screw driver or sending it to Art's, I don't know what to advise.
If you are going to send to "smith" I would only send it to Art's Gun Shop. They are the experts on the A5 and their prices are not that ridiculous depending on what you want done.


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 Post subject: Re: BROWNING A5 DISASSEMBLY
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Browning, 725 how to change firing pins. I had great pictures from rastoff changing the firing pins in my cynery. Can anyone help?


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 Post subject: Re: BROWNING A5 DISASSEMBLY
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:36 am 
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pep1212 wrote:
Browning, 725 how to change firing pins. I had great pictures from rastoff changing the firing pins in my cynery. Can anyone help?




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