ShotGunWorld Shotguns

It is currently Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:42 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Image



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 120 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: O/U Firing Pin Maintainance - With Photos
PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:49 pm 
Presentation Grade

Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2003 12:27 pm
Posts: 580
Location: about an hour North of Toronto
I found this very helpful. I have just finished cleaning the firing pins on my 725 Sporting.
The lower pin was quite dirty but the upper pin had hardly any dirt on it.

This thread made the job very easy, thanks for sharing this information.




Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: O/U Firing Pin Maintainance - With Photos
PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:18 pm 
Tournament Grade

Joined: Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:05 pm
Posts: 132
Location: Louisville, Kentucky
I realize this post is 7 years old, but this is really fantastic info. I've got an older Citori that I bought used, and it's generally in great shape, but every 500 shells or so the trigger would get stuck after the first shot. I assumed the internals were gunked up somehow, and while I didn't want to take it to a gunsmith for what was probably a trivial problem, I didn't want to start dismantling the thing without clear instructions on how to do it. This was just what I needed to know.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: O/U Firing Pin Maintainance - With Photos
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:42 pm 
Utility Grade

Joined: Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:37 pm
Posts: 17
I just bought a used browning citori that was functioning fine. However after dry firing it, I can't get the gun to function anymore.

I've been searching blogs about the potential problem and ended up here . I think it is related to the hammers within the receiver. Or the receiver itself not re-setting.

Please if anyone knows about the Browning Citori trigger mechanism, contact me. I've spent at least 5 hours trying to research this problem and I feel that due to my lack of experience w/ o/u shotguns I may be missing something easy.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: O/U Firing Pin Maintainance - With Photos
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:50 pm 
Crown Grade

Joined: Tue May 18, 2004 11:49 am
Posts: 5422
Location: Southwest Georgia, USA
Describe your problem in more detail. Are you fully opening the gun after dry firing? If so, is the safety off and you pull the trigger, can you hear a click? After bumping the butt of the gun on the floor to reset the trigger, can you pull the trigger and again hear a click?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: O/U Firing Pin Maintainance - With Photos
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:37 pm 
Tournament Grade

Joined: Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:30 pm
Posts: 168
Location: Washington State
Old thread but great info. Just replaced pins in my 725 with JB pins. Thanks for the good instructions Mr. Wood, it made it easy.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: O/U Firing Pin Maintainance - With Photos
PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:55 pm 
Utility Grade

Joined: Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:35 am
Posts: 2
Mr. Wood, thank you for an excellent post with pictures. I was able to take the stock off the gun and clean the firing pins for the first time. The hardest part was getting the long stock bolt loose. The gun is a 1994 and had never had pins cleaned.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: O/U Firing Pin Maintainance - With Photos
PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:39 pm 
Utility Grade

Joined: Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:18 pm
Posts: 4
Awesome post even in 2018


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: O/U Firing Pin Maintainance - With Photos
PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:03 am 
Utility Grade

Joined: Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:31 pm
Posts: 2
Hello guys,
I am a new member ...
I find this Post very interesting but I can not see the photos .

Any tips for uploading ?

best regards :wink:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: O/U Firing Pin Maintainance - With Photos
PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:00 pm 
Diamond Grade

Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2006 11:33 am
Posts: 1269
Location: Fountain Hills, AZ USA
exodont wrote:
Hello guys,
I am a new member ...
I find this Post very interesting but I can not see the photos .

Any tips for uploading ?

best regards :wink:



Try again, Curly, the moderator, fixed the photos and they now work for me again. Let us know if you can see the photos now. Thanks.

_________________
Regards,

Bill Wood
NRA Benefactor Life
NSSA/NSCA Life


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: O/U Firing Pin Maintainance - With Photos
PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:02 pm 
Utility Grade

Joined: Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:31 pm
Posts: 2
Yes thank you very much it Works !
I hope That this old post help other shooters to fix their gun
Best regards


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: O/U Firing Pin Maintainance - With Photos
PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:46 pm 
Field Grade

Joined: Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:22 am
Posts: 63
Location: Redstone, CO
Used this information to clean the pins on my Citori 20 gauge.
Would not have tried it without this.
They were in need of a good cleaning.

Thanks :D


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: O/U Firing Pin Maintainance - With Photos
PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:53 pm 
Limited Edition
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:57 pm
Posts: 328
Location: CA 90266
Thank you for sharing.

_________________
“Advice is seldom welcome, and those who need it the most, like it the least.”
- Lord Chesterfield. 1750


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: O/U Firing Pin Maintainance - With Photos
PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:27 pm 
Tournament Grade

Joined: Sun May 13, 2018 9:02 pm
Posts: 279
Bump


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: O/U Firing Pin Maintainance - With Photos
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:11 am 
Field Grade

Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:41 pm
Posts: 38
Location: Houston, TX
Does anyone know if it is a design flaw in the Citoris that causes the lower firing pin to become extremely dirty compared to the upper firing pin? I'm wondering if any other O/Us have the same problem. I have my heart set on a 16 gauge Citori O/U.

_________________
That ain't your Daddy's shotgun Cowboy!!! R. Lee Ermey as Gunnery Sergeant Hartman - FULL METAL JACKET


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: O/U Firing Pin Maintainance - With Photos
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:38 am 
Limited Edition
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:24 pm
Posts: 394
Location: South Central Pennsylvania
The lower pin strikes at an angle, which can cause primer piercing in some brands. The piercing allows hot gasses to blow back and enter the firing pin channel, which can gum up the works. This piercing can also erode the firing pin tip, which adds to problems. If there is no piercing the channels should be about the same as far as residue build up needing to be cleaned over time.

_________________
Citori 725 Skeet 12/28"
CZ Drake .410/28"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: O/U Firing Pin Maintainance - With Photos
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 8:45 am 
Tournament Grade

Joined: Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:21 pm
Posts: 190
Location: NJ
Great instructions THANK YOU, I have found some brand shells will lightly dent primer in bottom barrel but alway refire in top barrel, even after cleaning? Winchester Universal 2/3/4" 1200 11/8" 7.5 and Federal Dove loads(white box walmart)? maybe 1 shell out of ever 50 shot? Primer strike present looks good but FTF, remove install in top barrel bang.
Thanks again for your time and effort to help all, Its Greatly appreciated!

_________________
Browning 725 HR Adjustable 32"12ga
Benelli S Sport 32"12ga
Remington 1187SP 32"12ga
Caesar Guerini Summit Trap Combo 32/34"
Winchester Model 59 Winlite 30"full 12ga
Ithaca Gun 36"12g
Pride of Spain10g
NRA LifeMember since2000


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: O/U Firing Pin Maintainance - With Photos
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2020 7:10 pm 
Tournament Grade

Joined: Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:17 pm
Posts: 268
Location: Trinidad, CO
OP.

You are the Man! Much thanks for your time and intellect.

s/f Steve


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: O/U Firing Pin Maintainance - With Photos
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:38 pm 
Tournament Grade

Joined: Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:21 pm
Posts: 190
Location: NJ
28ga. wrote:
The lower pin strikes at an angle, which can cause primer piercing in some brands. The piercing allows hot gasses to blow back and enter the firing pin channel, which can gum up the works. This piercing can also erode the firing pin tip, which adds to problems. If there is no piercing the channels should be about the same as far as residue build up needing to be cleaned over time.


Your diagnosis is 100% correct. I have a 8 month old 725 with this exact trouble, you would think a 15 year old problem Browning could fix. I called and ask Browning directly and they say they know it happens and can be prevented if you dont use "HARD" primers or shells with hard primers
The reason the bottom fire pin appears so dirty is because the pin has in the past broke through the primer, and now its getting blow back from primer ignition. The bottom pins comes into the primer at a angle down and to the right, between the angle and the hard primer material it rips the primer and exhaust gases blow back into fire pin chamber.
I was getting 3 /4 burn through primers per 100 shots, and had replaced 3 etched fire pins in 3000 rounds. talked to Browning multiple times about this problem, they did give me specs for pin but best fix is to avoid shells with "HARD" primers.

_________________
Browning 725 HR Adjustable 32"12ga
Benelli S Sport 32"12ga
Remington 1187SP 32"12ga
Caesar Guerini Summit Trap Combo 32/34"
Winchester Model 59 Winlite 30"full 12ga
Ithaca Gun 36"12g
Pride of Spain10g
NRA LifeMember since2000


Last edited by rbdjr on Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:35 am, edited 2 times in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: O/U Firing Pin Maintainance - With Photos
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:54 pm 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:15 am
Posts: 23095
Location: Knoxville, Tn area Nyuck, Nyuck
rbdjr wrote:
28ga. wrote:
The lower pin strikes at an angle, which can cause primer piercing in some brands. The piercing allows hot gasses to blow back and enter the firing pin channel, which can gum up the works. This piercing can also erode the firing pin tip, which adds to problems. If there is no piercing the channels should be about the same as far as residue build up needing to be cleaned over time.


Your diagnosis is 100% correct. I have a 8 month old 725 with this exact trouble, you would think a 15 year old problem Browning could fix. I called and ask Browning directly and they say they know it happens and can be prevented if you don't use "HARD" primers or shells with hard primers

Best solved by using hulls with a malleable strike surface such as those on American made shells. Most Euro hulls have a steel strike surface that cracks easily causing the issue.

_________________
Take a few minutes and watch this video of Kate Smith if you love the ole USA https://youtu.be/TmfeNq5x5aQ

Let us endeavor so to live so that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry.
Mark Twain


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: O/U Firing Pin Maintainance - With Photos
PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:00 pm 
Crown Grade

Joined: Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:54 am
Posts: 2061
William R Wood wrote:
...

Here is the basic sequence and some pictures of the procedure:
...
This whole job can be easily finished in 20 minutes after you are familiar with it.



THANK ... YOU ... AGAIN , Mr. Wood !!!!!!!!!

Just knocked this job out in record time and only because of this extraordinary service by you to the members here at SGW.com (and beyond). Only doing this once every 2 or 3 years it is a blessing to be able to quickly peruse your pictorial and not make any goober mistakes!

{hs#




Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 120 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Registered users: albanygun, apexclays, Bad English, Bing [Bot], birdhunter39, bwpkck, casonet, cheesy1, cookoff013, Dbl Auto, DblXX, Denver1911, EricB, fishrising, Fluke, Google [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot], Gunning Bird, hopper810, JacksBack, Jaspo01, jcbabb, kenhwind, leftex, Luvthemtorts, Markepilot, Mr.Jeem, msmith, myshootinstinks, NoDak Scotty, olsenjb, oyeme, Patently Obvious, Rack-N-Roy, RMc, saskbooknut, shacked, sherpa guide, Silver, Skip1sr1101, Solid Hit, strut64, SWPAMike, Tailchaser, Tex68W, The Rattler, Tidefanatic, TOM-M, twin rivers, twistedoak, wbreda, Woodsie131, YevetS


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group    - DMCA Notice