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 Post subject: Browning A5 16 Gauge Serial Number Date Guide
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:13 am 
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I came across a x prefix Browning A5 at a small shop while visiting relatives out of state. The gun had some rust on it but seemed in decent condition overall. I saw on the first page here that the x prefix means a 1947 16 gauge.
My question is what would be a decent price for this gun with the x prefix? Also, how uncommon are the 1947 16 gauge A5's? As I stated, it did has some surface rust on the receiver. The other issue was that at the muzzle it had what appears to be a cutts compensator that is missing the inside. Looks like a muzzle break. Sorry I didn't get a picture of it. Would you pass on it with some rust or just look at it as one to be sent out for some TLC?

Thanks for looking and any ideas you have on a decent price and other information.

Serial number was X9 - - -




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 Post subject: Re: Browning A5 16 Gauge Serial Number Date Guide
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:55 am 
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Hey treeduck, I can't answer your question cause I'm still learning this stuff, but I am curious what the shop was asking for this A5 you saw?


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 Post subject: Browning A5 16 Gauge Serial Number Date Guide
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:58 am 
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I think they wanted around $350. I forgot to add the s/n was X9- - - . I’ll put this in my original post. Thanks for responding.


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 Post subject: Re: Browning A5 16 Gauge Serial Number Date Guide
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:06 am 
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Does this one say Sweet 16 on one side of the receiver? Any gold on trigger or safety? My understanding is, that if it does not have the SW16 label on rcvr, but has the SW16 attributes otherwise, many shops don't recognize it for what it is, and price according to standard models.


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 Post subject: Re: Browning A5 16 Gauge Serial Number Date Guide
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:25 am 
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X-prefix guns run from 1947-1953. Yours is a ‘47 if that’s a four digit S/N.

99% of the value is in condition, divide the other 1% by features like Stealth Sixteen, year of manufacture, and prefix. It costs a lot more to put a rusty gun in the condition you want than it does to buy one in that condition already. From your description, I’d say it’s a $250 gun — out the door. And that’s only if it has a choke I can use. This one doesn’t.


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 Post subject: Re: Browning A5 16 Gauge Serial Number Date Guide
PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:17 pm 
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Since the barrel is not safe for steel shot the choke doesn’t really matter to me. If I bought it I would get a Japanese barrel for it to hunt waterfowl. Gun is in the condition I would expect to find for a 72 year old gun. Just the one spot on the receiver that may be rust. If it’s there when I get back up I may see if they will come down to around $250.


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 Post subject: Re: Browning A5 16 Gauge Serial Number Date Guide
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:10 am 
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So the Japanese bbls are ok for steel shot? Guess they say "Made in Japan" ?


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 Post subject: Re: Browning A5 16 Gauge Serial Number Date Guide
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:55 am 
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284wahoo wrote:
So the Japanese bbls are ok for steel shot? Guess they say "Made in Japan" ?


Browning’s position is that only Miroku made barrels with interchangeable chokes are steel safe. But many people on this forum state that they shoot steel in their Belgian barrels with no ill effect as long as it’s choked Modified or less.

If no-tox shot ever becomes law, I’ll be shooting steel through my Auto-5’s.

And yes, Miroku barrels do say “Made in Japan”.


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 Post subject: Re: Browning A5 16 Gauge Serial Number Date Guide
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:40 pm 
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For what it's worth I started shooting bismuth after buying my first A5 16 ga and joining this forum (and getting a tongue lashing). Best thing i ever did. I have had great results with bismuth. A little pricey, but i'm shooting less because i'm seeing better results than i have had with steel. You don't have to take my word for it, do the research and shoot a box. I would buy early though, the 16 ga loads run out quick.


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 Post subject: Re: Browning A5 16 Gauge Serial Number Date Guide
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:27 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Browning A5 16 Gauge Serial Number Date Guide
PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:03 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Browning A5 16 Gauge Serial Number Date Guide
PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 4:34 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Browning A5 16 Gauge Serial Number Date Guide
PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:49 am 
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Used this info to date a gun today. Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Browning A5 16 Gauge Serial Number Date Guide
PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:55 pm 
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I recently purchased a Sweet Sixteen at a gun show and am having a hard time dating it.
The serial# is Y1841 found on the receiver and the barrel ring. Also on the barrel is FABRIQUE NATIONALE D'ARMES DE GUERRE . HERSTAL-BELGIQUE. On the side of the barrel
*ACIER SPECIAL-C.16-CART.2 3/4-63.5mm


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 Post subject: Re: Browning A5 16 Gauge Serial Number Date Guide
PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:19 pm 
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Images if my sweet sixteen


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 Post subject: Re: Browning A5 16 Gauge Serial Number Date Guide
PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:27 pm 
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Hello and welcome! You’ve got a Y prefix gun, the first I’ve seen. I understand that these were all sold outside the US, so I’m guessing you’re in Canada or further.

The Y prefix ran from Y-101 in 1954 to Y-4767 in 1974. Y-3300 was the last of 1957 and Y-5200 the last gun of 1958, so you can narrow it down from that. You can pinpoint it from the date code on the barrel.


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 Post subject: Re: Browning A5 16 Gauge Serial Number Date Guide
PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:11 am 
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Thanks for the prompt. According to the markings on the barrel, the barrel was made in 1956, which would be about right according to the information you provided.
And yes we are from Southern Ontario Canada.


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 Post subject: Re: Browning A5 16 Gauge Serial Number Date Guide
PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:49 am 
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Glad to help, BUT — I just realized that what I wrote doesn’t make sense — that #5200 was made in 1958 and #4767 in 1974. So I rechecked S/V and sure enough, the serial numbers skip around.

The Y series itself doesn’t make any sense. Total production of only 4773 guns in 10 years, with serial numbers that reached at least as high as 5200. What was the point?

S/V also says that two of these guns were imported to the US, one of which was located and examined. It was a standard Sweet Sixteen engraved and marked for the US market. We can see, however, that the OP’s un-engraved, ACIER SPECIAL Sweet is a World Market gun.

No wonder Goad left this out of his guide. But thanks to the OP we know a little more about them.


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 Post subject: Re: Browning A5 16 Gauge Serial Number Date Guide
PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:38 pm 
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here is a picture of the markings on the barrel


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 Post subject: Re: Browning A5 16 Gauge Serial Number Date Guide
PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:42 pm 
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more markings. I don't know if this helps identify but that's the markings




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