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 Post subject: Rio primer load data redux!
PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:20 pm 
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Hello all,

Several years ago I was one of the ones who was using Rio primers when they came along. As we all know, there is very limited 12 ga reloading data for them, in fact, the only published data I know of is here:

http://www.rioammo.com/resources/PrimerReloadData.pdf

Which certainly has some usable data for me to work with. I was curious, if anyone else has seen published data, maybe in shotgunning magazine or the like? A recent search showed the last rio primer thread, back in 2010.

In one of those searches, shoot2reload had this link:

http://www.mynssa.com/ssr/ssr201005/ceretto.pdf

A link I cannot open.

All this hoopla for the fact I found about 2000 of the little guys left over in my primer stash in a box I missed earlier this year. I run 7/8 oz loads a lot more now, and was looking for a suitable 7/8 in a gun club/sts hull. Short of a published recipe, I'll go back to the original data and just load some 1 oz loads and buy a powder to make it work.

I want to use these guys up and be done with it, I already found a wonderful primer for cheap, the Nobel Sports.

Edit: FTR, I went ahead and emailed the Rio website about any additional data they migh thave since the advent of new powders has happened several times since their original data. We shall see. I also sent a message to Ben at Alliant powders to see what they might say about 7/8 oz loadings.

Cant hurt to try, right?

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 Post subject: Re: Rio primer load data redux!
PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:33 pm 
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TAB, I doubt the contents of that dead link would have helped with Rios. That was Ceretto's article where he verified that the Nobel Sport 209 could be substituted for the Win 209.


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 Post subject: Re: Rio primer load data redux!
PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:49 pm 
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Has a pamphlet that is all Rio reload data,But you got to buy it,It's cheep like $1.50 but there is $12 freight

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 Post subject: Re: Rio primer load data redux!
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Either Alliant or Hodgdon has some recipes that use the Rio primer, but they are limited.
I bet that 209A Federal data will be safe!

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 Post subject: Re: Rio primer load data redux!
PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 7:37 pm 
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Curly is right, - using Federal 209A primer data will be safe, and it's my view that it will get you pretty darn close.
Hodgdon publishes a fair amount of loads for the Rio G-600 primer for common components, hulls, and powders:

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Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 16.1 7,800 PSI 1125
Lead Shot 12 1oz. Clays Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 17.4 9,600 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 18.7 11,500 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12SL 16.2 7,900 PSI 1125
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12SL 17.4 9,700 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12SL 18.3 11,200 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Rem. FIG 8 16.3 9,600 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Rem. FIG 8 17.5 11,200 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12 15.6 9,400 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12 16.6 10,900 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Windjammer 16.2 8,200 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Windjammer 17.4 10,200 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 14.8 7,800 PSI 1125
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 16.4 9,700 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 18 11,400 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12SL 15 7,500 PSI 1125
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12SL 16.7 9,600 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12SL 18.2 11,400 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Rem. FIG 8 15.3 8,800 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Rem. FIG 8 16.4 10,000 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12 15.2 9,400 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12 16.2 10,900 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Windjammer 15.7 7,700 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Windjammer 16.9 9,100 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Windjammer 18.4 10,900 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 18.9 7,100 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 20.1 8,600 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 21.4 10,200 PSI 1290
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12SL 18.7 7,200 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12SL 20 9,100 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12SL 21.5 10,100 PSI 1290
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Rem. FIG 8 17 7,000 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Rem. FIG 8 18.3 8,500 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Rem. FIG 8 19.6 10,000 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12 17 7,200 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12 18 8,500 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12 19.2 10,100 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Windjammer 18.5 7,700 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Windjammer 19.7 9,100 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Windjammer 20.9 10,500 PSI 1255

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Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 16 7,600 PSI 1125
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 17.1 9,200 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 18.3 11,100 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12SL 15.2 7,600 PSI 1125
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12SL 16.7 9,700 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12SL 18.1 11,400 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Rem. FIG 8 15.9 8,800 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Rem. FIG 8 17.2 10,700 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12 15.9 8,900 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12 17 10,600 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Windjammer 16 8,200 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Windjammer 17.2 9,800 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Windjammer 18.2 11,300 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 14.8 7,800 PSI 1125
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 16.4 9,700 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 18 11,400 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12SL 15 7,500 PSI 1125
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12SL 16.7 9,600 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12SL 18.2 11,400 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Rem. FIG 8 15.3 8,800 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Rem. FIG 8 16.4 10,000 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12 15.2 9,400 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12 16.2 10,900 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Windjammer 15.7 7,700 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Windjammer 16.9 9,100 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Windjammer 18.4 10,900 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 18 7,500 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 19.2 8,800 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 20.5 10,200 PSI 1290
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12SL 17.9 7,500 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12SL 17.9 7,500 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12SL 19.2 9,000 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12SL 20.5 10,400 PSI 1290
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Rem. FIG 8 16.9 7,400 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Rem. FIG 8 18.2 8,500 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Rem. FIG 8 19.4 9,600 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12 16.6 7,000 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12 17.9 8,600 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12 19.2 10,100 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Windjammer 16.8 6,600 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Windjammer 18.2 8,000 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Windjammer 19.7 9,500 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Windjammer 21.1 10,900 PSI 1255

Federal Gold Medals:
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Fed. 12SO 18.3 7,500 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Fed. 12SO 19.7 9,900 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Fed. 12SO 21 11,300 PSI 1290
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 18.4 6,300 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 19.6 8,300 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 20.8 10,400 PSI 1290
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12SL 18.4 6,200 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12SL 19.8 8,600 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12SL 21.2 11,000 PSI 1290
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Fed. 12S3 16.7 7,700 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Fed. 12S3 18.2 10,100 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Rem. FIG. 8 17.1 6,600 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Rem. FIG. 8 18.5 8,600 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Rem. FIG. 8 19.9 10,600 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12 17 6,600 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12 18.3 8,800 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12 19.5 10,800 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Fed. 12SO 17.7 7,900 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Fed. 12SO 19 9,800 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 17.7 7,300 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz Titewad Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 19 9,000 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 20.2 10,500 PSI 1290
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12SL 17.7 7,200 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12SL 18.9 8,900 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12SL 20 10,500 PSI 1290
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Fed. 12S3 16.4 7,900 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Fed. 12S3 17.8 10,000 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Fed. 12S3 19.2 11,200 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Rem. FIG. 8 16.8 7,200 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Rem. FIG. 8 17.9 9,200 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Rem. FIG. 8 19 11,300 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12 16.4 7,500 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12 17.7 9,000 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12 19 10,500 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Fed. 12SO 21 7,400 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Fed. 12SO 22.3 8,700 PSI 1290
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Fed. 12SO 23.7 10,000 PSI 1345
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Fed. 12SO 25 11,400 PSI 1400
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 21.6 6,400 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 19.6 8,300 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 22.8 7,600 PSI 1290
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 24 8,700 PSI 1345
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 25.3 10,000 PSI 1400
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12SL 21.7 6,400 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12SL 22.8 7,600 PSI 1290
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12SL 23.9 8,800 PSI 1345
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12SL 25.2 10,200 PSI 1400
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Fed. 12S3 20 7,300 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Fed. 12S3 21.2 8,600 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Fed. 12S3 22.3 9,800 PSI 1255
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Rem. FIG. 8 20.1 6,900 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Rem. FIG. 8 21.4 8,200 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Rem. FIG. 8 22.6 9,300 PSI 1255
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12 19.8 6,900 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12 21 7,900 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12 22.3 9,000 PSI 1255

Fiocchi 7mm (low base wad):
Lead Shot 12 7/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Fed. 12SO 19.1 4,300 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 7/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Fed. 12SO 20.2 5,400 PSI 1250
Lead Shot 12 7/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Fed. 12SO 21.3 6,500 PSI 1300
Lead Shot 12 7/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Fed. 12SO 22.4 7,500 PSI 1350
Lead Shot 12 7/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 19.8 4,800 PSI 1250
Lead Shot 12 7/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 20.8 6,100 PSI 1300
Lead Shot 12 7/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 21.9 7,400 PSI 1350
Lead Shot 12 7/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12L 19.5 4,000 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 7/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12L 20.4 4,900 PSI 1250
Lead Shot 12 7/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12L 21.3 5,800 PSI 1300
Lead Shot 12 7/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12SL 22.2 6,800 PSI 1350
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12SL 19.3 5,600 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12SL 20.6 7,000 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12SL 21.9 8,500 PSI 1290
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12SL 23.2 10,100 PSI 1345
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Fed. 12S3 17.4 6,400 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Fed. 12S3 18.8 8,500 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 Fed. 12S3 20.2 10,500 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12SL 17.5 5,600 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12SL 18.8 7,300 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12SL 20.3 9,200 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Clays Rio G-600 WAA12SL 21.6 10,900 PSI 1255
Lead Shot 12 7/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Fed. 12SO 19.5 6,000 PSI 1250
Lead Shot 12 7/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Fed. 12SO 20.5 7,400 PSI 1300
Lead Shot 12 7/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Fed. 12SO 21.5 9,000 PSI 1350
Lead Shot 12 7/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Fed. 12SO 22.5 10,400 PSI 1400
Lead Shot 12 7/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12L 19.3 5,700 PSI 1250
Lead Shot 12 7/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12L 20.2 6,800 PSI 1300
Lead Shot 12 7/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12L 21.2 7,900 PSI 1350
Lead Shot 12 7/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12L 22.1 9,000 PSI 1400
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Fed. 12SO 18.6 7,000 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Fed. 12SO 19.8 8,600 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Fed. 12SO 21 10,200 PSI 1290
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 18.1 6,900 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 19.4 8,100 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 20.7 9,400 PSI 1290
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 Rem. TGT 12 22.1 10,800 PSI 1345
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12SL 18 6,600 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12SL 19.3 7,900 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12SL 20.7 9,300 PSI 1290
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12SL 22.1 10,700 PSI 1345
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12SL 16.7 6,600 PSI 1090
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12SL 18.2 8,100 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12SL 19.6 9,600 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Titewad Rio G-600 WAA12SL 21 11,000 PSI 1255
Lead Shot 12 7/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12L 21.5 4,900 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 7/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12L 22.4 5,400 PSI 1250
Lead Shot 12 7/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12L 23.3 6,000 PSI 1300
Lead Shot 12 7/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12L 24.2 6,500 PSI 1350
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12SL 22.7 6,000 PSI 1235
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12SL 23.8 6,900 PSI 1290
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12SL 25 8,000 PSI 1345
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Fed. 12S3 20.4 6,800 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Fed. 12S3 21.4 7,800 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Fed. 12S3 23 9,400 PSI 1255
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Rem. FIG. 8 21.1 6,400 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Rem. FIG. 8 22 7,100 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 Rem. FIG. 8 23.4 8,300 PSI 1255
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12SL 20.9 6,300 PSI 1145
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12SL 21.9 7,200 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Internat'l Rio G-600 WAA12SL 22.8 8,100 PSI 1255
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Universal Rio G-600 WAA12SL 25.9 6,700 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Universal Rio G-600 WAA12SL 25.8 7,000 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Universal Rio G-600 WAA12SL 27 7,400 PSI 1255
Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. Universal Rio G-600 WAA12SL 28.3 8,200 PSI 1310

I'm having stellar success with the latest version of the Rio G-600 primers. I don't know what changes they've done to them, or what they were really like in the past, but they have been very consistent in all of my loads (~2X better than the Fiocchi Fio 616's).

And the old "orange dust problem in the primer tray" is completely gone now, and the ink is slightly different on the cardboard sleeves, so I know there's been some sort of changes made (manufacturer, location, or both).

They are $50 cheaper than Federal 209A's online at Connies Components out here on the West coast (Seattle area), and I was getting them for ~$108 /case at the big shoots out here where Connies goes to (as listed on their web page).


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Men,

I had hoped to use alliant powders, as I have those on hand. However, after seeing the links and info provided, it appears a trip for some clays is in order. I started out using clays, nothing wrong with it, just like the American powders.

Thank you all,

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thomasartbutler wrote:
Men,

I had hoped to use alliant powders, as I have those on hand. However, after seeing the links and info provided, it appears a trip for some clays is in order. I started out using clays, nothing wrong with it, just like the American powders.

Thank you all,

T

I can use those pesky primers up! Yay!

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In your experience the clays recipes work for clay dot? I have read for and against on this site.

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From what I have seen and read, the CLay Dot works to replace the Clays, usually a slightly lower pressure. This is based upon a weight measurement. A slight bushing change may be required if you are set-up for Clays. That was the stated purpose for making Clay Dot. Now if you have a high Pressure Clay Dot recipe from Alliant, I would suggest that you not use Clays in that recipe, unless you can find it as a Clays recipe from a good source.
Hopefully this is not confusing to anyone.

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Not at all. I havnt used clays in a long time, so a good time to revisit it with clays powder. I tend to like 1 oz at 1200 fps or less, and my 7/8 oz at 1250 fps. Pressures should be plenty safe.

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